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The Sims 2 Forum (BBS) > Challenges and Contests > Game Challenges and Legacies > "The Land Rich, Cash Poor Challenge"
 | The Land Rich, Cash Poor Challenge Read 5477 times (TreyNutz2) Apr-19-07 07:57 AM GMT |
 | | The Brief Orientation part:
"Welcome, welcome! I'm sure you're very excited about... (TreyNutz2) Apr-19-07 07:58 AM GMT |
 | | | Expanding Services - At the end of every winter (twice a 'year') Sim City expands it'... (TreyNutz2) Apr-19-07 08:01 AM GMT (updated) |
| | | The actual fine print:
- No cheats except aging off. You can turn off aging if y... (TreyNutz2) Apr-19-07 08:06 AM GMT (updated) |
| | | I've uploaded a story/documentary on this challenge. It's actually following an earl... (FndrBndr1010) Apr-20-07 08:39 PM GMT (updated) |
|  | | Nice challenge! (sims2spkr) Apr-21-07 04:10 PM GMT |
| | Very detailed description. The story helps illustrate the main points as well as ente... (EuphorialQueen) Apr-22-07 05:04 AM GMT |
|  | | I used a brand new neighborhood, but did not use deleteallcharacters or anything. I... (FndrBndr1010) Apr-22-07 07:41 AM GMT |
| | That's funny that it has soo many restrictions on things but if bills must be deliver... (AJ4106) Apr-22-07 07:30 PM GMT |
| | I read all of your story, and enjoyed it, though it was rather grim. Don't think I'... (music2ologist) May-02-07 11:50 PM GMT |
| | I've been playing your challenge and like it, but I have some questions.
1) Can t... (CalgaryRose8) Jun-30-07 03:47 PM GMT (updated) |
| | | 1 & 2) I originally thought that eventually players would get sick of playing under... (FndrBndr1010) Jun-30-07 04:17 PM GMT |
| | This challenge looks WAY fun! I have gotten pretty bored because I can't stop myself... (mattyandjosie) Sep-11-07 07:57 PM GMT |
| | This sounds like an excellent challenge!!! Right Now I'm working on The Following ch... (Soapdish042) Apr-22-07 12:25 PM GMT |
| | I read most of it, I'll have to finish it later.
But thanks, it looks cool. I may ac... (lysskap9) May-28-07 08:06 PM GMT |
| | I know that I have signed you guestbook about this. But I was searching through here... (kimvillemaire) May-31-07 08:59 PM GMT |
| | that is awesome. i wish that was really in the game so that you can't cheat on the un... (sodafizz1982) Jul-02-07 06:36 PM GMT |
| | So I started this challenge today and, as addicts will do, played it for like 6hrs st... (mattyandjosie) Sep-11-07 11:53 PM GMT |
| | | Ouch, that's painful. TS2 is one of the few games where I rarely think to save too.... (FndrBndr1010) Sep-12-07 12:32 AM GMT |
| | Hi Trey, it's Rachel of the Sims 2 Challenges podcast. I'm going to be covering this... (Ziese52) May-18-08 08:31 PM GMT |
| | | I'll see what I can do. Thanks for the heads up. (TreyNutz2) May-18-08 11:26 PM GMT |
| | I loved your stories that illustrated your LRCP Challenge - gave 'em 5 stars. This l... (lorinsv60) Apr-22-07 08:06 AM GMT |
| | | It's different in other people's games. I submitted it as a bug to Maxis, but I don'... (FndrBndr1010) Apr-22-07 09:17 AM GMT |
| | | Thanks for your suggestions. I really want to do this challenge, but right now I'm e... (lorinsv60) Apr-22-07 10:27 AM GMT (updated) |
| | | Good luck on the Apocalypse challenge. I'm thinking about trying that one out myself... (FndrBndr1010) Apr-22-07 10:43 AM GMT |
| | wow, this looks like a great challenge to really sink my teeth into the Seasons EP. (kstaron_) Apr-30-07 06:25 AM GMT |
| | I love this challange! I just started it and I think it's the funnest thing ever! Som... (emma3amme) May-10-07 12:52 PM GMT |
| | | Good luck. I'm glad you like it. (FndrBndr1010) May-10-07 01:14 PM GMT |
| | Excellent! I was looking for a seasons living off the land challenge. When I first lo... (connection556) May-12-07 05:42 PM GMT |
| | | Cool. If you put up a story, please post a link, or sign my GB. I'd love to read it... (FndrBndr1010) May-12-07 06:32 PM GMT |
| | | Here's the link: http://thesims2.ea.com/exchange/story_detail.php?asset_id=161359 (connection556) May-19-07 02:05 AM GMT |
| | | Wow, very clever! (Fencer70) May-27-07 02:27 PM GMT |
| | Nice....Nice....That is a great challenge, down to the very wire. Have a bene.
-I... (MetallicaSim) May-29-07 04:33 PM GMT |
| | This sounds like fun! I'll have to try it sometime. :-) (NYNrvnS84) Jun-11-07 05:13 PM GMT |
| | oh that is an awsome challenge! i can only do the legacy challenge cuz i have no EPs... (OMGaFlyingBUNNY) Jun-12-07 05:22 PM GMT |
| | | Oooh its just like Harvest Moon...ima try it :-D (o0shadownymph0o) Jun-14-07 01:31 PM GMT |
| | Wow great challenge!!! I'm gonna try it out in the morning but i cant fall asleep cau... (Katana94) Jun-20-07 08:06 PM GMT (updated) |
| | | Good luck. (FndrBndr1010) Jun-20-07 08:18 PM GMT |
| | | Ahh i was in the middle of creating my story and my power goes out!!!!!! AHHHH! I'll... (Katana94) Jun-22-07 07:34 AM GMT |
| | | http://thesims2.ea.com/mysimpage/uploads.php?user_id=1491286&nstart=1&asset_type=stor... (Katana94) Jun-22-07 08:24 PM GMT (updated) |
| | | No problem :D (UzumakiNova) Jun-24-07 03:02 PM GMT |
| | | hat looks like a great challenge! I think I'm going to try it, even though you made i... (dance4evergrl99) Jun-26-07 06:09 PM GMT |
| | I tried it and my first sim died after the second winter but the other one completed... (CoomerSooner2) Jul-06-07 08:22 PM GMT |
| | | Oh! That's too bad! So sorry to hear that.
I had 2 sims die really quick the fir... (FndrBndr1010) Jul-06-07 08:48 PM GMT |
| | | I checked out your link after you helped me with my car dealership (thanks again). I... (KDH9196) Jul-07-07 12:00 AM GMT |
| | Aww.. I want to do this challenge soooo much, but my comp. doesn't handle seasons ver... (Ekio3) Jul-07-07 10:43 PM GMT |
| | | I am gonna start it as soon as I look at the stories! (dew0330) Jul-15-07 12:02 PM GMT |
| | I'm doing the challenge - it's so much fun! So far, one of my sims has been struck by... (ZelenaCurious) Jul-22-07 09:33 AM GMT |
| | | 1. Good question. I forgot how I handled this. You can move wall sections around a... (FndrBndr1010) Jul-22-07 10:19 AM GMT |
| | | Thanks for the quick reply Fndrnutz, you are a great caretaker of your challenge :-)... (ZelenaCurious) Jul-22-07 12:27 PM GMT |
| | | The story I posted was the 3rd or 4th time I attempted the challenge. The previous a... (FndrBndr1010) Jul-22-07 01:00 PM GMT |
| | | :-) Well, if they survive the winter and manage to build a greenhouse, eggplants it i... (ZelenaCurious) Jul-22-07 01:39 PM GMT |
| | | First time I played this challenge I had frozen fishpond right through winter, autumn... (Paulinesutcliffe) Jul-23-07 12:13 AM GMT |
| | | My sims were lucky - when their trees caught on fire the heavy rain put the fire out,... (ZelenaCurious) Jul-23-07 08:23 AM GMT |
| | | This is definitely the best way to discover Seasons...for your sims to experience it... (greenfeet93) Aug-01-07 08:12 PM GMT |
| | | Thanks. I'm glad you like it. (FndrBndr1010) Aug-01-07 08:19 PM GMT |
| | | dude are you gay? You had max and pres make out? (Madmike9504) Aug-07-07 05:26 PM GMT |
| | | Yes. And they later have children. (FndrBndr1010) Aug-07-07 05:31 PM GMT |
| | | Uhh where is pieces for the zodiac match. (Caz967) Aug-11-07 07:12 PM GMT |
| | | Sorry, I don't understand the question. (FndrBndr1010) Aug-11-07 08:00 PM GMT |
| | Nice challenge ;-) (Gothinit7) Aug-24-07 01:30 PM GMT |
| | Hi I just found this challenge and have started it and boy does it have some funny mo... (biiatchymissyy) Sep-22-07 06:59 AM GMT |
| | | Hmmmm, fences. Count fences as double the number of walls. Three walls are 1 object... (FndrBndr1010) Sep-22-07 07:58 AM GMT |
| | Just for clarification, in the event that the Family is robbed, Do the replacement It... (nargow) Sep-22-07 07:23 PM GMT |
| | | Yes they do. (FndrBndr1010) Sep-22-07 08:59 PM GMT |
| | | Another Quick question for you. For Flowers....Like Pansies / Poppies / Daisies / T... (nargow) Sep-23-07 05:19 AM GMT |
| | | 1 per 'object'. I know it's a pain, especially with things like lighting, but I don'... (FndrBndr1010) Sep-23-07 06:49 AM GMT |
| | | Thanks, I appreciate it. And no Hassle. I just wanted to make sure that the way tha... (nargow) Sep-23-07 07:41 AM GMT |
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The Land Rich, Cash Poor Challenge
I?m sure there are other similar challenges to this one, but here?s my take on the basic idea of having 2 sims living off the land as best they can. I?ve play tested this a few times, it?s doable. I had a lot of fun with it.
Note: this challenge requires Seasons. It's assumed you have NL, OFB, and Pets, but that's not required.
The outer regions of the sim word is a harsh and unforgiving place. With freezing winters, scorching summers, and plenty of wolves, very few sims have ventured forth to tame these extreme lands. Sim City government is desperate to expand due massive overcrowding caused by unscrupulous cheesecake venders. So a new "Free Land! Plus Money!" program was born.
Two poor, lonely, mismatched sims apply for the program and are accepted. They are whisked through an all too Brief Orientation program and quickly shuttled off to their new home. They must live together and make the best of their new life, their new home, and each other.
Who are these two crazy, brave sims?
- make 2 sims in CAS. They must be roommates.
- personalities don't have to be a default zodiac, but you must use one of these pairs:
Aries/Cancer
Taurus/Virgo
Gemini/Capricorn
Leo/Capricorn
Libra/Scorpio
Scorpio/Aquarius
- turns on cannot ever match the other sim
- the turn off must always match the other sim
- choose whatever aspirations you want
The Free Land! part:
(you might want a new neighborhood for this)
- adjust the seasons of the neighborhood to be in this order (1-4): Summer, Winter, Autumn, Winter. (If you start the challenge and find the day of the season to be anything but the first day of Summer, use the Season and Weather Controller hack on www.simwardrobe.com to fix it. It's under TS2/Objects/Other Objects on the website. In the game it's under Misc/Misc - a $3 vase. Choose Set Season, then Season 1 and the starting point should be 5 days of Summer remaining. Sell back the vase when you are done.)
- you may play on any sized lot you wish, but it should be decently large
- enter the lot before moving in the sims and adjust terrain to your choosing
- add at least one pond
- add $10,000 worth of trees that drop leaves (as close as you can get it, +/- $100 at least). No fruit trees.
The Plus Money! part:
- move the sims onto the lot and use familyfunds (contrary to popular opinion it does work in lot view) to adjust their cash balance to ?2500 (or lower if you're game).
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The Brief Orientation part:
"Welcome, welcome! I'm sure you're very excited about your new home. There are some very minor details we have to go over now that you've signed on the dotted line:
- There is no public transportation to your new land yet. You won't be able to get visit community lots until you can purchase a car or until we extend taxi service to your new neighborhood. By moving onto this lot, you agree not to steal good paying jobs from hard working city sims. Ever.
- We haven't zoned your land for business use. It's too far away to attract customers anyhow. We will eventually be building up a downtown or shopping district close by so you'll be able to purchase a lot to conduct business at that time, providing you can afford it. However, due to agreements with the businesses who are funding this expansion, you cannot compete with existing businesses by selling stuff already on the market. You can only sell stuff you grow, catch, craft, cook, or paint on your land.
- Because of the long trip to your neighborhood, the poor quality of the dirt roads, and the low population, only one truck makes it out each day. This truck must service everyone in the Free Land! Plus Money! program. So, due to size restraints, you can only purchase 2 objects a day, provided services for those objects are available (see below). This includes all Build, Buy, and Aspiration Reward objects. Planting soil is excluded from this limit. There is an exception for walls and foundations. We can send you up to 3 wall sections or 20 foundations for each 'object'. The truck arrives in your neighborhood at 8am and makes deliveries until sundown. No exceptions. We expect to expand delivery services eventually.
- On the return trip back, the truck can take back up to 2 items a day. Sorry, we only reimburse you the depreciated price. This includes used aspiration objects.
- Our truck is not refrigerated. Thus we can't deliver food unless you buy a refrigerator. There will not be any food deliveries nor food for sale in stores in your area. Probably ever.
- Currently the truck cannot make deliveries in winter. No buying or selling any items until we get funding for snow plows.
- Sim City scientists have devised a way to suck food right out of your hands and instantly transport it back here in order to feed our burgeoning population. So, we can buy your produce directly as you harvest them or buy edible items right out of your inventory (no boots) at any time.
- Sorry, but no services or deliveries (from the phone) are offered that far out from Sim City at this time.
- We do provide mail and repossession services, so don't ignore your bills.
- Of course, we couldn't offer this program without guaranteeing emergency and school services. At least that was the court ruling after a long and bitter legal fight.
- Your lot comes with plenty of trees. You can cut down enough trees to fund wall purchases. Furthermore, you can sell trees to fund the purchase of up to 3 wall sections a day (up to $210 a day but not over, unless you want to keep track of any carryover) over the item per day limit.
- The following utilities and specialized services are not currently available, but will be in the future (including but not limited to): phone service (land and cell), computer internet hookup, sprinkler system installation, cable television, radio station signals, gas lines for ovens and cooktops, burglar alarm hookup to the police station, fire alarm hookup to the fire station, aspiration reward delivery, ladybug loft delivery, driveway construction, fruit tree deliveries, non-owned career reward permits.
- Over time we'll be expanding standard Sim City services to your new neighborhood. Please be patient and just hang in there.
Well, that about covers it. The door's over there. Thank you and good luck. Next!"
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Expanding Services - At the end of every winter (twice a 'year') Sim City expands it's standard services to your sim's neighborhood. There are 7 basic restrictions that can be lifted in any order you desire (technically restrictions are lifted the first day of Summer and Autumn, excluding the first Summer, of course):
- Phone services - all options on the phone except grocery and food delivery are permitted, provided you have a phone
- Public transportation - sims can travel via taxi anywhere, make purchases at non-owned community lots, except purchase groceries or eat at restaurants.
- Driveway installation - doesn't count for the item per day limit.
- Downtown/Shopping District opening - sims can purchase a community lot. Ideally in a downtown or shopping district sub-neighborhood, but if loading times are an issue for your computer you can purchase a community lot in the main neighborhood.
- Speedy courier delivery of craft bench supplies - Sims can use craft benches to produce goods. You can't sell them from the bench or inventory though. You can only sell crafted items on a community lot.
- Road/highway upgrades - doubles the number of items per day you can buy/sell. This can be unlocked multiple times.
- Snow Tires, Plows - the first time you unlock this, items can be delivered during winter except when there is enough snow on the ground to make snowmen/snow angles. The second time you unlock this, deliveries can be made all throughout winter according to the trucks normal schedule.
- Private schools
- University for 2nd generation and later family members
- Jobs for 2nd generation and later family members
- Pet jobs
Utilities and Specialized Services - The first day of each new season (except the first Summer) brings a new option to your neighborhood. In addition to unlocking these items, you get to purchase your first item in that category unrestricted by any item per day rule. Unlock them in any order you wish:
- phones (land and cell)
- televisions
- radios
- computers
- garden sprinklers
- stoves/cooktops
- burglar alarms
- fire alarms
- ladybug lofts
- fruit trees
- aspiration rewards (except the ReNuYu Senso Orb and the weather machine)
- 2 career rewards - use boolprop to give your sims any two career rewards you like. These are not subject to the 2 item per day rule. This can only be used once.
- The Garden Club - is very excited to help out those moving to these new neighborhoods. They can conduct inspections once you have a phone and the city provides transportation to your area for all services. If your garden is found to be in suitable shape, the Garden Club will make a donation to help you further develop your garden. All money from received from the GC must be spent on gardening supplies (anything in the Garden Center of Build mode, purchases using the GC money that are made on the day of inspection do not count towards the item per day limit). Use the wishing well at your own peril.
- End Game - eventually you'll get tired of this challenge and go back to your usual way of playing. Eventually the family will make tons of money. Just play until you get bored, or you've decided that the family has 'made it' and then toss the remaining restrictions.
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The actual fine print:
- No cheats except aging off. You can turn off aging if you'd like and turn it back on when you want to have kids.
- The no-plant-sim hack from DJS Sims (http://www.djssims.com/index.php?category=10) is highly recommended (I think plant sims make this too easy). Other hacks are allowed. Fixes (like the warmth fix from MATY) are fine. But always perfect plants is not. Neither is Pescado's indoorplant fix. It fixes a bug, but also makes greenhouse plants too easy to care for. Generally anything that affects farming or fishing to make things easier is, well, if you are going to use those then why play a challenge? Put the no plant sim hack in a separate Hacks folder so you can remove it easily when you are not playing the challenge. I have it and do not intend to keep it in my game, just for this challenge.
- If you don?t get the no plant sims hack above, you must cure all plant sims immediately. The challenge will be easier for you since sims are cured with full needs, but then you?ll need to purchase the potion. I suggest buying some before hand.
- You can use any method to give your sims University equivalent want slots and locks, if you wish. Except sending them through Uni first. boolprop, hack, whatever is ok.
- Custom content must be reasonably priced (no $0 wall coverings).
- Build mode objects: One 'truck object' from build mode equals - up to 3 wall sections, 6 fences, up to 20 foundation/deck tiles; for wall and floor coverings one entire room counts as one one 'truck' object (enough wall coverings to cover all the walls in one style in one room or enough floor coverings to cover the entire floor in one room); one roof of any size; one dormer; one door; one window; one staircase; etc. Recoloring counts as a new object. You get up to 3 wall sections a day independent of the limit if you sell trees to fund the purchase and you can lay down as much planting soil as you want.
- You can essentially trade trees for wall sections, but only up to the cost of 9 wall sections a day (the limit that can be delivered), or $630 a day. You can't go over and actually make a profit (although it you want to keep track and roll over any unavoidable 'profit' from one day's tree sale into the next day's wall purchase, you can).
- For a community lot business, you can't sell anything in build or buy mode. Only produce, fish, boots, foods you've cooked from the produce, crafted items, and paintings. All cooked foods you intend to sell must be cooked on the home lot then transferred to the business via inventory. If you want the community lot business owner to also start a home business just so food that's cooked automatically goes to the his/her inventory, that's fine, but you can't ever open the home business to service customers.
- Sims can write and sell novels on computers.
- No craft benches since supplies can't fit on the 'truck' until you unlock it (see above).
- By no "services or deliveries (from the phone)" I mean that nothing in the Services or Delivery option on the phone is permitted.
- You can 'move' existing walls by deleting them and rebuilding them. The difference between the depreciated sale price and the cost of new replacement walls is 'labor.'
- Dating and outings on community lots only between household sims. You can have dates and outings at home between 2nd generation household and non-household sims.
- You can't use the ReNuYu Senso Orb or the weather machine.
Thanks - to Twain and Izus for comments and testing during development, and LK for the initial poke to write something, and everyone else on thesporum.net for their comments.
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Nice challenge!
(\__/)Line 1: My BBS buds are lauren5759, Lln560 and ThenisiaRad5
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Very detailed description. The story helps illustrate the main points as well as entertains the reader. I liked the part where the dude built a snowman right in front of the fridge. LOL What did you do about neighbors? I started a "clean" neighborhood by using "delete all characters" but some neighbors presist on presenting themselves. Did you start a fresh "No Nothing" Hood? I don't last long before wanting to use Maxmotives or some other cheat.  Sounds like great fun but I would be in too much of a hurry to build shelter and such. 
EQ
You've got to put down the Ducky before you play the Saxaphone
TS3 http://www.thesims3.com/mypage/EuphorialQueen
"Some of my favorite friends are virtual." -EQ
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I used a brand new neighborhood, but did not use deleteallcharacters or anything. I generally ignored the walkbys. There was supposed to be other sims in the 'Free Land! Plus Money!' program, so it's not important to the challenge whether there are walkbys or not.
I don't remember whether it was with the Steeles or another household in playtesting, but one of the family sims did, early on, get a want to meet someone new. I satisfied that with a walkby. But without a phone it was hard to further the friendship. I thought about having them meet other sims through walkbys just so they would have people to call when they got a phone, but it wasn't necessary for aspiration reasons. Neither were getting jobs ever, so that wasn't necessary either. It would have been nice for the wedding though.
If you wanted a truly isolated neighborhood, you'd need to get rid of all the townies and use a no-townie-regeneration hack, and remove it once you unlocked shopping centers.
Land Rich, Cash Poor Challenge - Business Edition
http://thesporum.net/smf/index.php?topic=3624.0
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That's funny that it has soo many restrictions on things but if bills must be delivered or repos need to be made they'll be out there in a snap! 
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I read all of your story, and enjoyed it, though it was rather grim. Don't think I'll ever subject my sims to what yours endured. I gave you a bene.
I wish I could change my profile so it stays. This is the fourth time I've changed it, and it
always changes back.
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I've been playing your challenge and like it, but I have some questions.
1) Can the Sims born in-game get jobs and/or go to private school/college, or are they stuck on the outskirts living off the land their entire lives?
2) Can pets get jobs?
3) Can the household invite people they know to the home lot, or do they have to have an outing or date on a commercial lot in order to see their friends face-to-face?
4) Can I (mis)match an adult CAS or generated Sim with an adult born-in-game Sim to start a new household? If so, can I just move one Sim in with the other from the neighborhood screen or do I have to build up their relationship in-game?
Please answer soon. My first LRCP couple has twin teenage sons (no cheesecake. ARRGH! The ONE time I didn't want twins and they pop up!) and Wants them to be overachievers and get into private school and college. They also have a dog and they Want her to get a job.
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Quoted from original message:
I've been playing your challenge and like it, but I have some questions.
1) Can the Sims born in-game get jobs and/or go to private school/college, or are they stuck on the outskirts living off the land their entire lives?
2) Can pets get jobs?
3) Can the household invite people they know to the home lot, or do they have to have an outing or date on a commercial lot in order to see their friends face-to-face?
4) Can I (mis)match an adult CAS or generated Sim with an adult born-in-game Sim to start a new household? If so, can I just move one Sim in with the other from the neighborhood screen or do I have to build up their relationship in-game?
Please answer soon. My first LRCP couple has twin teenage sons (no cheesecake. ARRGH! The ONE time I didn't want twins and they pop up!) and Wants them to be overachievers and get into private school and college. They also have a dog and they Want her to get a job.
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1 & 2) I originally thought that eventually players would get sick of playing under the rules and abandon the challenge after their couple had 'made it' by whatever definition you want to use (which is what I did). However, I could create a few more things to unlock every Summer and Autumn to deal with your concerns:
- private schools
- public schools
- pet jobs
- sim jobs for the next generation sims only
If unlocking these every Summer and Autumn takes too much time in your situation, then play them as unlockable every season. Which ever way works for you.
3) Once your sims have a phone they can invite over any friends they have. Dating between household sims should be on a community lot, but dating with non-household sims can happen on the home lot. Of course, going to a community lot still requires unlocking phone services or a car.
4) If you are starting the challenge fresh, you should use 2 CAS sims. If you really want to use an in-game born sim, then use boolprop to remove all their skills and badges (if that's possible) or else you'll have an edge. Combining the 2 sims via neighborhood view is the best way to go since they won't know each other.
The mismatching of sims was only intended for the beginning of the challenge. Kids of the couple can date/marry anyone they want and as far as I'm concerned do not have to live by the rules of the challenge once they move out. That would be your choice to do that or not. I originally envisioned this as a short challenge, not really lasting past the death of the 2 original sims.
Land Rich, Cash Poor Challenge - Business Edition
http://thesporum.net/smf/index.php?topic=3624.0
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This challenge looks WAY fun! I have gotten pretty bored because I can't stop myself from using cheats so I am totally going to try this "rehab". Thanks for the challenge (Tre) and the awesome story (Fndr)
Yes I write a Legacy
Yes YOU should read it
here it is: http://thesims2.ea.com/exchange/story_detail.php?asset_id=217831
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This sounds like an excellent challenge!!! Right Now I'm working on The Following challenges at the same time!!!
Landlubbys Challenge
Royal Kingdom Challenge
Footsteps to Freedom Challenge
And
Legacy Challenge
Plus A Challenge from the The Sims Resource site.
However I did copy Your Challenge and saved it for when I'm done with one of the above challenges I will work on yours!!!!
Thanks for creating it!!!!
IM IN LOVE WITH MY OWN DNA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I read most of it, I'll have to finish it later.
But thanks, it looks cool. I may actually try it if I ever get back around to playing the sims 2 again. haha!
(My game was having some tech issue's so I've just been letting it be lately.)
Have a bene! (Even if you don't really technically "need" it. It's still the nice thing to do!)
peace. love. and happy simming.
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I know that I have signed you guestbook about this. But I was searching through here trying to find something new to do, and thought I'd give it a shot. Wish me luck and let me know if you have any pointers. Thanks treynutz2 for an awesome challenge.
http://www.thesimmersclub.net/ Now with an exchange...no culling. You should come and see all of
the great stuff I have to offer there. Go ahead and click it! You won't be sorry.
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that is awesome. i wish that was really in the game so that you can't cheat on the unlocking and buying too much.
 stephanie
i want a gender cheat...to select the babies gender before birth...like the twins cheat!!!!
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So I started this challenge today and, as addicts will do, played it for like 6hrs straight. Unfortunatly it didn't occur to me to save frequently because I was never leaving the lot. So when my game decided to freeze up (courtesy of Bon Voyage) I lost EVERYTHING! So just a note to everyone taking this awesome challenge, don't forget to save frequently! Thanks again for the challenge, I liked it enough I'm going to start again, with frequent saving breaks!
Yes I write a Legacy
Yes YOU should read it
here it is: http://thesims2.ea.com/exchange/story_detail.php?asset_id=217831
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I'll see what I can do. Thanks for the heads up.
Whoopee!!!
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I loved your stories that illustrated your LRCP Challenge - gave 'em 5 stars. This looks like fun, and it would force me to concentrate on the gardening and fishing in Seasons.
I've never used hacks before - do you find it common that if you start in summer, the game doesn't start you on the first day of summer and therefore you must use the Season and Weather Changer hack?
NEW Apocalypse story:
Romancing the Apocalypse: http://thesims2.ea.com/exchange/story_detail.php?asset_id=199862
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Quoted from original message:
I've never used hacks before - do you find it common that if you start in summer, the game doesn't start you on the first day of summer and therefore you must use the Season and Weather Changer hack?
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It's different in other people's games. I submitted it as a bug to Maxis, but I don't know if it really is. My first few lots playtesting this challenge were fine and started on the first day of summer, but the next 2 started on the last day.
If you don't want to try a hack, and you find the game starting on the last day of summer, you can adjust the seasons in the neighborhood to be Summer, Summer, Winter, Autumn. Then once the first season ends, change it to Winter (so it's Winter, Summer, Winter, Autumn). That will give you one extra day of summer making things a bit easier.
If your lot starts out on a different day, then adjust the seasons temporarily so you get at least 5 days of summer before the first winter. Do not start the challenge right in Winter - that's too hard. I found the hack to be the easiest way to fix the issue.
The other possibility is to use this cheat:
aspirationPoints 7000
get the The Weathernaught 57x aspiration reward, use:
boolprop or the aspirationLevel [0-5]
cheat to put one sim in gold, and then change the season to the first day of summer. I didn't suggest that because that will mess up the starting aspiration level and it's more complicated. But it's probably better than messing with the season order (from a difficulty standpoint). I don't know what aspiration level to choose. Pick one that gives the sim gold. Try and change it back to the starting point if you can.
Land Rich, Cash Poor Challenge - Business Edition
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Thanks for your suggestions. I really want to do this challenge, but right now I'm enmeshed in the Apocalypse. There just aren't enough hours in the day to work my real-life job and do all the Simming I want! Maybe my Apocalypse will fail soon and then I can get to yours. I am so glad I found challenges like yours to play, because I was getting in a real rut playing TS2 the way I normally do.
I will go so far as to set up a LRCP family to see about when Summer begins.
NEW Apocalypse story:
Romancing the Apocalypse: http://thesims2.ea.com/exchange/story_detail.php?asset_id=199862
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wow, this looks like a great challenge to really sink my teeth into the Seasons EP.
The Lost Realm Prosperity Challenge Story week 3 on
simpage The Lone Martian Apoco-Legacy chapter 2 on
simpage UBER-Simmer's Architectural Society member
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I love this challange! I just started it and I think it's the funnest thing ever! Something about it is just so exciting... :D
Sha-weeeet.
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Excellent! I was looking for a seasons living off the land challenge. When I first looked at it I was thinking...Oh no, it's another apocalypse! But this seems way easier and fun, too! I've started it, and will be posting a story about sometime in the future! :)
"Don't worry about the people in your past, there's a reason they didn't make it into your
future."
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Wow, very clever!
"If we bottled your luck, we'd have a weapon of mass destruction on our
hands." - Edward Cullen
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This sounds like fun! I'll have to try it sometime.
98% of teens smoke or have tried smoking pot. Put this in your signature if you like bagels.
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oh that is an awsome challenge! i can only do the legacy challenge cuz i have no EPs 
I like waffles!
"Cockaroaches are eewieeee!"
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Ahh i was in the middle of creating my story and my power goes out!!!!!! AHHHH! I'll have to try tomorrow or later today to write it all again and upload it cause I can't right now cause my dad's hogging the comp (I'm on my laptop) but its his b-day so i'll be nice and won't complain....maybe 
Scream until you feel it, scream until you believe it, scream and when it hurts you scream it out
loud.
~Tokio Hotel~
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No problem :D
~#*EB GAMES*#~
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hat looks like a great challenge! I think I'm going to try it, even though you made it a lot easier with all of your hacks. And I don't quite get the whole trees for walls thing but I'm sure if I read it over again I'll get it... I think. Lol that's okay though everyone else seems to get it and it's not a HUGE part of the challenge. Have a bene.
"When life gives you lemons, squeeze them in your enemy's eyes."--Happy Bunny.
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Oh! That's too bad! So sorry to hear that.
I had 2 sims die really quick the first time I played. I didn't know they absolutely needed a house to get through the winter, and they froze to death just after the end of the first one. So I changed the rules so you could build at least a tiny shelter for them to survive the first winter.
Land Rich, Cash Poor Challenge - Business Edition
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I checked out your link after you helped me with my car dealership (thanks again). I'm going to buy seasons just so I can play this challenge, it sounds like so much fun. Maxis should pay you commission!
I only like people I create myself!
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Aww.. I want to do this challenge soooo much, but my comp. doesn't handle seasons very well..stupid computer.. anyways it sounds like a lot of fun.
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I am gonna start it as soon as I look at the stories!
I don't have a signature
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I'm doing the challenge - it's so much fun! So far, one of my sims has been struck by lightning, the trees caught on fire later in the same storm, then again later, one of the sims has caught a golden trout, but I don't know what that does, as have only just installed Seasons...and one of my sims froze in the tiny bathroom which doesn't have a roof (as it was added after the roof was put on the original shack).
So my questions are:
1) once you have placed a roof, can you remove it and replace with a bigger roof to cover new bits of house, or do you have to use up one of your daily objects to place extra roof?
and
2) are greenhouse walls the same as normal walls. I.e. do you place 3 sections of greenhouse wall per object, and can you also get the extra wall allowance from selling trees as greenhouse walls too? I assume greenhouse rooves count as a completely separate object.
Thanks - I'm just off to scour your challenge stories to see if they contain the answer, and will delete this if I find what I need, but I urgently need to know as the plants are dying and my sims could too if they get stuck in that bathroom freezing one more time...lol! 
How to get the golden anniversary lifetime
want:
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1. Good question. I forgot how I handled this. You can move wall sections around all you want. So, I think I counted expanding the roof as one object if the addition was large (like doubling the space), but not if it was small. Use your judgment, I guess. I only stuck to the rules myself for half the challenge before abandoning them.  The object limit gets in the way once the family has earned a lot of money.
2. Greenhouse walls count the same as normal walls. You can't sell trees for greenhouse walls. But you can use any money from a garden club inspection to buy them, and there's no limit to the garden supply objects you can buy with GC money IF you make the purchase on the day of the inspection. So, the GC comes with a big truck, gives you some money, and hopes you'll spend it on garden supplies right away. Actually, I think I required all GC inspection money to be spend on garden supplies. A greenhouse roof does count as a separate object.
Good luck with the challenge. I had the bathroom objects outside for a long time. Also the golden trout can be cooked if your sim has enough cooking points, but it's worth something like ?500. I always sell them for the cash.
Land Rich, Cash Poor Challenge - Business Edition
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Thanks for the quick reply Fndrnutz, you are a great caretaker of your challenge Good clarification about the extra small amount of roof/large amount of roof, and about the greenhouse walls...although before seeing this I had been merrily selling trees to fund them - of course I'm low on trees now! So no more of that. I see the wisdom of your rule
So things are going seriously awry in my challenge, having accidentally broken not only the greenhouse wall rule but also, I realised after I posted my question that I wasn't supposed to be getting winter deliveries at all! However, when I had the deliveries for the first few days of winter it was freak warm weather and there wasn't even light snow on the ground...so maybe that's ok - ish! My sims are now being suitably punished as the autumn is so cold that the pond has stayed frozen for the first two days, they can't fish and are seriously running low on cash! Also, for the first day of autumn I didn't take any deliveries, as a token gesture to repairing my slip 
Anyhoo, they're nowhere near getting to the stage where they've 'made it' and can abandon the object limit rules...and due to the cash and frozen pond situation, I see a lean, lean, winter ahead of them  The golden trout has been sold - had to be - I hope the golden trout are jumping when the pond unfreezes!
How to get the golden anniversary lifetime
want:
http://bbs.thesims2.ea.com/community/bbs/messages.php?threadID=2dc2fedeb8d1c4c3b74cb2c62a19e4d7&directoryID=44&startRow=1&openItemID=item.44,root.1,item.61,item.104,item.41,item.127,item.23
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The story I posted was the 3rd or 4th time I attempted the challenge. The previous attempts were different versions of it. I was pretty new to Seasons too, but by the time I did the Steeles I had a feeling for how much fishing to do vs how much time to spend on crops. The frozen pond in Autumn sucks. I hated that too. But then it might not freeze until the middle of winter too. You never know.
I didn't invest in a greenhouse until pretty late. Once it's built though, concentrate on eggplants and do your best to get them to thriving. They'll make you ?450+ per plant at harvest.
Land Rich, Cash Poor Challenge - Business Edition
http://thesporum.net/smf/index.php?topic=3624.0
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First time I played this challenge I had frozen fishpond right through winter, autumn, winter. Lean times! Then came fish-filled summer - when both my sims died trying to put out a tree struck by lightning. But I do love this challenge! It really makes you prioritise.
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My sims were lucky - when their trees caught on fire the heavy rain put the fire out, after a while...just as well as there was no phone, no fire alarm, and no extinguish option! But I think it's part of the fun that at the beginning, they are completely exposed to the elements. The best way to discover Seasons, in my opinion, rather than playing the ready-made houses in Riverblossom, they have so much stuff they are overprotected!
How to get the golden anniversary lifetime
want:
http://bbs.thesims2.ea.com/community/bbs/messages.php?threadID=2dc2fedeb8d1c4c3b74cb2c62a19e4d7&directoryID=44&startRow=1&openItemID=item.44,root.1,item.61,item.104,item.41,item.127,item.23
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This is definitely the best way to discover Seasons...for your sims to experience it first hand. I started out with a fridge and a bed. I had to hurry to get up their first shelter and the first winter there was no greenhouse so their plants all died. When fall and summer came I had them fish like crazy and they made a lot of money that way. I have't found the 2 item rule limit very troublesome yet. This challange has been a lot of fun! Thanks for the great challange.
#1 way to go crazy: post on the BBS.
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
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dude are you gay? You had max and pres make out?
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Uhh where is pieces for the zodiac match.
Why are you looking at my sims wierdly... You look stupid.
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Nice challenge
"Wake up and smell the Toaster Pastry!"
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Hi I just found this challenge and have started it and boy does it have some funny moments.
If you still check this post what I would like to have some clarification on is the fencing. I want to fence the front of my property but am unsure as to how to count fences as objects. Any help would be awesome.
And thanks for this awesome challenge its making the seasons ep even more fun for me :)
Hi all I have started my very 1st Apocalypse Challenge and am going to try to keep track of it in
My Blog. Please feel free to comment or give suggestions. :)
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Hmmmm, fences. Count fences as double the number of walls. Three walls are 1 object, so 6 fences would be 1 object. I'll edit the rules to mention them. Thank for the question.
Land Rich, Cash Poor Challenge - Business Edition
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Just for clarification, in the event that the Family is robbed, Do the replacement Items count against your daily total when you replace them?
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Another Quick question for you. For Flowers....Like Pansies / Poppies / Daisies / Tulips. How Many per "Item"?
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1 per 'object'. I know it's a pain, especially with things like lighting, but I don't want the rules to get overly complicated. The only reason I made multiple walls and foundations equal to one object was so that you could build a shelter by winter, and otherwise construction would take forever.
Remember, unlocking Road/highway upgrades doubles the number of objects you can buy each time you unlock it. So you start of with 2 objects a day, but after unlocking that 2 times you get 8 per day. The next unlock would be 16, then 32, and eventually you'll get to the point where it's almost like playing without any restrictions and money will be the real issue.
Land Rich, Cash Poor Challenge - Business Edition
http://thesporum.net/smf/index.php?topic=3624.0
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Thanks, I appreciate it. And no Hassle. I just wanted to make sure that the way that I was doing it was within the intentions of the original challenge.
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