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The Sims 2 Forum (BBS) > Challenges and Contests > Archived Challenges and Contests > "Royal Kingdom Challenge"

Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-07-05 10:35 PM GMT (updated Jun-12-05 10:15 AM GMT)

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R o y a l K i n g d o m C h a l l e n g e

Do your Sims have a longing for days gone by? Do they want to shout `Huzzah! Long Live the King and Queen!? Do they have a hankering for good old-fashioned servitude? Then it is you duty to transport them back in time several hundred years to live in Good Old Simland! Simland has a King and or Queen that presides over all of their loyal subjects. Its up to you to make the strongest Royal family that you can.
The Goal: The point of this challenge is to make a medieval theme neighborhood with a royal family, nobility, merchants, and peasants and reach 5 generations with at least one family from each category.
- To begin you must make a new neighborhood
- Make 1 King and Queen for your royal family in CAS
- Make 3 or less families that will become the Noble class
- Make 2 or less families that will be the Merchant class
- Make 3 or less families that will be the Peasant class
Rules for the Royal Family
-All money cheats are acceptable
-You may use boolProp cheats for building their castle
-You may download a castle for the royal family is you don?t want to build one
-The first-born son of the current King and Queen will become the heir to the throne (If they have no sons then their eldest daughter may become the heir) and must never move out of the house except to go to university
-The HEIR to the throne may only marry a Sim from the royal family or the Nobel class but they may have lovers of any class
-If you have university, all male royal children must attend, but they can drop out after at least completing freshman year (except for the heir to the throne, he/she must complete collage)
- Women of the royal family are not permitted to have a job or live alone
Rules for The Noble Class
-You may use the motherlode cheat only two times
-You may use boolProp cheats for building purposes only
-The first-born son will be the family heir (If they have no sons then their eldest daughter may become the heir) and must never move out of the house except to go to university
-The HEIRS may not marry below their status
-Women are not permitted to have a job
Rules for The Merchant Class
-You may use the motherlode cheat only one time
-You may use boolProp cheats for building purposes only
- Although the eldest son traditional becomes the heir, any of the children may inherit their father?s house and fortune and the heir must never move out of the house except to go to university
-The HEIRS can't marry below their status
-Only single women may have jobs
Rules for The Peasant Class
-You may not use any cheats (except boolProp for building purposes only)
-Anyone and everyone is encouraged to have a job since they will have very little money
- Although the eldest son traditional becomes the heir, any of the children may inherit their father?s house and fortune and the heir must never move out of the house
-Children of this class are not permitted to go to university since peasants did not receive much of an education.
-Since they are the lowest rank, peasants may marry anyone but royalty.
General Rules
- Since townies come with no family, they may marry anyone of any rank
- NPC?s are servants so they may only marry Sims from the merchant class or lower
-You may use move_Objects on only to decorate and move Sims if they get stuck
-You are encouraged to use custom content that has a medieval theme
-Try to use only objects that fit within the medieval theme, this means no TV?s, computers, etc. You may use the smallest stereo in the Royal and Nobility houses since they would have had paid musicians to play for them. Nececities such as the phone and fire alarm are alowed.
-You may not delete gravestones
-You may use all reward/aspiration objects except the peasant class may not use the elixir of life since they generally would not live as long anyway
-Women can't go to University

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-07-05 10:35 PM GMT (updated Jun-16-05 09:39 AM GMT)

Subject:
Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

Career limitations:
-Royalty would be limited to Artist, Natural Science, Paranormal, and Show Biz if they went to college. If they didn't, they would be limited to Politics, Military, Science
-Nobles are the same as Royals if they are College Grads, non grads limited to Athletic, Politics,Military, Science.
-Merchants, even if going to college, would be limited to Business, Law, Medical, Politics, Science, Culinary
-Peasants would be limited to Criminal, Medical, Military, Slacker, Culinary
-ONE child of each class per generation (not per house, only per generation) could go to ANY job.
Peasants still would only get the 10 basic jobs, but they could do any of those.
Consider, a genius Peasant becoming a Top Athlete or Politician, a Black Sheep Royal becoming a Criminal. Oh the stories you can tell...
(Thanks to Trixie9819 who suggested the career limitations.)
***To keep all the families and classes in the same generation try to play each family for a few days and then move on to the next family***
Scoring
* Count up all the points when at least one family from each category reaches 5 generations. You can play without counting points but you must count points is you want to 'win'. Please be honest.
1 point for each generation reached
1 point for each PLATINUM grave
1/4 point for each family friend the royal family has
1 point every time a Sim fulfills an impossible want
1 point for each lot that has all 14 career reward objects are on the lot
1 point for each different color ghost you have on the lot
1/2 point for each set of natural twins
2 points if you manage to collect ALL the different types of ghosts on a lot
3 points if each heir is the first-born son
-2 point for each Sim that was purposely killed
-1 point for each Sim that marries below his or her status
-1 point for each infant, toddler or child that gets taken by the Social Worker
-1 points every time a household member drops into aspirational failure, prompting a visit from the Sim Shrink.
University Bonus Points
1 point for each Sim that graduated from collage
1 additional point for graduating Summa Cum Laude (4.0 GPA, no less)
-1 point for each heir that drops out of collage
Try to make your neighborhood as historically accurate as possible
OPTIONS
-If medieval isn't your style you could also play this challenge with a Renaissance, Regency, Victorian, or fantasy theme.
-If you want an even harder challenge you could put two kingdoms in one neighborhood. But that means two sets of everything, 2 royal families, two sets of nobility etc.
-If you want you can add a church/monastery or abbey to you neighborhood that you can send Sims to that you don't want to marry
-**To keep track of who belongs to what class you can have each class have a specific hair or skin color (ex. all peasants could have brown hair or green skin)**
-To keep all the families and classes in the same generation try to play each family for a few days and then move on to the next family

**I don't think I have thought of everything. I may add more stuff later on. If you have any suggestions or ideas that I could add to the challenge please tell me!!

Visit my Sim Site: www.fancifulmind.com/sims - specializes in medieval & renaissance content
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Author: Simsarmy1 - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 11:05 AM GMT (updated Jun-08-05 11:09 AM GMT)

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

Nice! To help, you can use my castle, although you may have to move out the people living there:
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Author: Hollygirlgirl - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 11:34 AM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

I'm working on too many challenges right now but this is this one does sound fun and interesting. Maybe later i'll try it out. Bene for thinking up a great challenge though. Good work. Holly

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Author: Ziese52 - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 12:11 PM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

I've got to say I love this idea!
You should come join the Sims 2 challenges group on Yahoo if you'd like. http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/TS2challenges/ There's already been quite a bit of interest from members.
One question. If a female has an affair with a member of Royalty and becomes pregnant, is the offspring still the mother's class or is it royalty. I'm assuming it is still the mother's but I've seen movies where the rightful heir to the throne is a peasant as a result of an affair and they become the King or Queen.

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 12:49 PM GMT (updated Jun-08-05 12:51 PM GMT)

Subject:
Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

Quoted from original message:
One question. If a female has an affair with a member of Royalty and becomes pregnant, is the offspring still the mother's class or is it royalty. I'm assuming it is still the mother's but I've seen movies where the rightful heir to the throne is a peasant as a result of an affair and they become the King or Queen.

That could create some interesting story lines. The child would have to be the Kings first born son in order to have a claim to the throne. Usually the heir to the throne has to grow up in the castle and only leave to go to collage, but It could be interesting if that happened once in the royal family tree.
I'm not sure but generally I think that children born out of wedlock are considered the mother's class.

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Author: mordian40K - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Sep-06-05 12:21 PM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

Quoted from original message:

One question. If a female has an affair with a member of Royalty and becomes pregnant, is the offspring still the mother's class or is it royalty. I'm assuming it is still the mother's but I've seen movies where the rightful heir to the throne is a peasant as a result of an affair and they become the King or Queen.

Strickly speaking, the resulting child is a ba$tard and not allowed in the line of succession. In order for chldren to be considered in line for the throne, they need to be born in wedlock.The king can agknowledge the chlid as "the royal bastard," but the child cannot become an heir to the throne. The best that the chlid can hope for is a position as an officer of the government.
Royal bastards are usually stationed at about the same level as a knight. They are addressed as lord/lady (First Name), or Sir/Dame (First Name) if they are knighted. Note, they aren't even addressed as Prince or Princess, since only children born in wedlock can carry that title.
Case in point, Henry VIII had an illegitimate son before prince Edward. Edward gets the throne because he's born in wedlock.

Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Sep-07-05 12:05 AM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

Ah yes, that makes sence. Thanks for clarifying that. I love history but I don't usualy remember a whole lot of what I learn

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Author: Hihilady - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-14-05 05:42 AM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

I have a question. Will the objects from the Parsimouis (sp?) harm my game. Cause then my dad would kill me!

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Author: MedleyMisty - Rank: Supreme Social Sim - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-14-05 08:55 AM GMT (updated Jun-14-05 09:01 AM GMT)

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

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I have a question. Will the objects from the Parsimouis (sp?) harm my game. Cause then my dad would kill me!

No. Nothing but hacks and recolors that aren't compatible with Uni and maybe downloads that get corrupted could do anything to your game. And if that happens, it's really easy to just use the Clean Installer and find the hacks and delete them, and delete the other files if you know what they are. If you don't, you just take your Downloads folder out and add the downloads back in a bit at a time until you find the bad file.
So the objects should be fine, but if they're not it's easy to fix. And they don't include hacks. I just said that because hacks that aren't compatible with Uni are one of the few downloads that could harm your game.
Just make sure that you get CEP if you need it and get any meshes that you need.

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-14-05 11:18 AM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

I have been using the objects from that site in my game with no problem at all. I love the children's room they have that makes the crib look like it's made out of a barrel.

Visit my Sim Site: www.fancifulmind.com/sims - specializes in medieval & renaissance content
The Royal Kingdom Challenge: http://tinyurl.com/kl6lq - Live your medieval dream
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Author: hppymoonbelly - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-27-05 07:36 PM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

Hi ! Just wanted to mention I added some new medieval/renaissance type clothes to my sims page. I made one peasant outfit, and I will be modding it so teen, elder and child also have it. By the end of the week I should have a lower class of peasant added. I also found a mesh from All About Style in the victorian elder male section that might work with some Ren garb - but due to the rules on the mesh use I will have to post my work up at parsimonious.org for that round. I will make a note of the update somewhere on the BBS.
Thanks again for the challenge !!! It's so much fun !!

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Author: SIMpleSeaHorse - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Nov-14-05 06:42 PM GMT

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Thank you, SO MUCH, for all of the links!
I also LOVE your challenge idea!
I'm super glad to see old-fashioned subjects on the BBS. You deserve a barrel of 'benes'!

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Author: chillyzgrrl - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Nov-16-05 04:25 PM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

Bene for all the hard work and thought you put into creating this challenge. I'mnot sure I'm going to do it right now, but since it's the first interesting/intellingent challenge I've seen all day (new ones only), it deserves to be rewarded. *gives Bene*

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Nov-17-05 05:13 PM GMT

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Thanks! I'm glad you find it interesting. It's not new though, it's been around since the begining of June.

Visit my Sim Site: www.fancifulmind.com/sims - specializes in medieval & renaissance content
The Royal Kingdom Challenge: http://tinyurl.com/kl6lq - Live your medieval dream
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Author: catootje30 - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 01:00 PM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

Thanks for the options about different styles. I will go for the Victorian style, because I looooooove the gowns and hairstyles and everything
Thanks you for this wonderful challenge!

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Author: VioletKitty411 - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-26-05 08:59 PM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

I broke down and decided to do "The Royal Kingdom," because it worked well with a project I've been wanting to have some fun with: Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood. So I have a new n'hood, named The Land of Make-Believe. I've placed King Friday XIII of Make-Believe, Queen Sarah of Make-Believe, Lady Elaine Fairchilde, Lady Elizabeth Aberlin, X the Owl and Henrietta Pussycat.
I was thrilled when that awful Lady Elaine just walked into Lady Elizabeth's place and struck up a conversation with another intrusive neighbor, Goopy GilsCarbo. I was hoping they'd meet! I gave her quite a schnoz...they'll have some unattractive kids, for sure. She also has a crappy personality. She is a fortune sim.
Once they marry, I will change his name to Lord Goopy Frankly I like him, and he did nothing to deserve her, but I couldn't marry him off to Lady Elizabeth. She married Benjamin Long, who became Lord Benjamin I. She prompty had twins, Lord Benjamin II and Lord Chadwick. Shortly after that, she had Lord Geoffrey. I'll let her have one more and that is it. Because this is the Summerdream home with sleeping quarters for 6.
Benjamin thinks he struck it rich, but at the time of the wedding, Lady Elizabeth had just $22 in the bank. Like many of the landed noble, all her wealth was tied up in her estate. Fortunately, he brought a much needed $9000 to the marriage. I figure he was a knight, not rich, but brave. Lady Elizabeth is a family sim and oddly spun up a masterpiece want before ever getting 1 creativity point!
I spent some time working on the treehouse for X the Owl and Henrietta Pussycat. They are peasants, so I can't use motherlode on them. However, since they are not family, I created them individually and moved them in together, figuring they were sharing rent. I think I did a fair job making a house look like a tree:
It's actually quite spacious. I even included Henrietta's little condo in the upper branches (ie the dormer). I have X in a cap and gown since he takes classes from Owl Correspondance School. He's knowledge. Henrietta wears the pink mommy dress and matching sun hat. She's a family sim. Both have pointed ears and face paint, and odd noses. I have an observatory for X in the upper branches as well. Maybe that high up no one will hit him for spying on them. I have plans for Henrietta to be a...um...very naughty kitty.
King Friday and Queen Sarah are just existing in the hood til I play everyone else. They are at the Kronberg Estate, which I believe is Splice's work. They are currently roomies. Queen Sarah was not original to the show, so I figured I'd get them married, and then they would have Prince Tuesday and the other days of the week.
The website Trixie found for me did not include any information on other characters such as Dr and Mrs Duckbill Platypus and their daughter Ornithirincus Annitinus, or Cornelius who was some sort of inventor, or the French guy with the Pomme Frites kitchen.
I'm also going to make Daniel Striped Tiger (with a daddy since he can't live alone) in a clock house. I'm putting Mr. McFeely and other human characters in a peasant house.
Okay, I realize how nuts this sounds, but I've been wanting to do this theme for ages, and some of the fun architecture. I actually cried when Fred Rogers died. If I ever load any stories, I will have him as the narrator.

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Author: AgifemGynor - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-28-05 02:33 AM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

I like that challenge. Although i am not found of multi-households challenges, i'm willing to try that one.
But i won't play it totally medieval. The kingdom i will create will mostly be found of medieval architectures (stone walls and such), but they will use modern technology.
About the class distinction, i think using names would be enough. A sim's name is the one of their parents, and a marrying sim's name can be determined by who uses the wedding arch. This way, i'd have the "de Kingdom" name for royal family, "de something" for nobelty, normal names for merchants, and "theFat", "theUgly" for peasants. This doesn't cover illegitimate children, but i guess the randomness part of their name could be their curse.

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Author: LettiePony - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Aug-07-05 01:03 AM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

For a lovely rainbow crown go to my simpage and find the rainbow queen. and you can use her dress too.

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Author: bpetherick - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Aug-20-05 10:43 PM GMT

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Okay, so my Mayfair challenge neighbourhood had a total crashy disaster, so I got rid of it and started the Unnamed Kingdom.
I'm not playing strictly to the rules about objects because I wanted to play around more with the social and cultural rules. I have been thinking about these, and I have added some rules about social interactions to my Kingdom.
Unmarried ladies of the nobility and royalty may not have male friends who are not close relatives or clergy. Married ladies can engage in the rituals of courtly love, and so may freely associate with men of their own class, including flirting and kisses up to Romantic. Of course, they may have clandestine relationships, but these will have serious consequences if they are caught.
Merchants come in two types: respectable families, in which case the ladies are even more strictly watched than the higher classes, or they can be bohemian, in which case anything goes, including children out of wedlock.
Peasants can try to be respectable, but since no one will be impressed, they may not need to bother. Of course, they risk being snubbed, too.
I think nobles with ambition will discourage their children from being friends with lower classes, but will it work? Townies count as lower and less respectable (who knows who their parents are?).
I made a story about my first few days of play. I have noble families, but no royals as yet, as the story illustrates. This is my first story ever, so I am not sure about how to link to it. Hopefully this works: http://thesims2.ea.com/exchange/story_detail.php?asset_id=49289

Author: simpudge - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-07-05 11:22 PM GMT (updated Jun-07-05 11:23 PM GMT)

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

Very cool. Not my style but bene for all posts if I have enough. :)
edit: I was only able to give bene to the top 2 posts. When I get recharged (heh) I'll come back and bene the third one.

Author: RobynCalloway8 - Rank: Babblative BBSer - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-07-05 11:55 PM GMT

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What a cute idea. I have a European mansion that would fit nicely into your home listings. And it is hack free and fully furnished. On my Sim page.

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Author: swiffner - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 07:03 AM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

Oh I love this idea :D I'm going to start the challenge when I get home from work today :D

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Author: Trixie9819 - Rank: Esteemed Personage of Prolixity - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 07:19 AM GMT (updated Jun-08-05 10:57 AM GMT)

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

This is one of the best thought out challenges I've seen in a long time (except my own, of course, lol)
A few quick things, it is only the HEIR that cannot marry below their station, correct? I know that is what it says, but I wanted to make sure that other Noble children could marry a peasant if they wanted to.
I'm assuming that the highest rank moves their spouse in with them, or should it be all women move in with men?
I'm spreading the word on this to our yahoo challenges group :)

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Author: skye83644 - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 08:15 AM GMT

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Honey, I gotta say, this is one of the most original challenges I've seen since the legacy one. You have covered everything, with an original twist. I will simply have to check this puppy out!
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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 11:05 AM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

Hehe, spell check doesn't always work.
Yes, the heir cannot marry below their station.
For the other children I think it would be alright if they did but the women always take on the status of their husbands. So if a peasant woman married a man from the nobility she would become part of the nobility but if a woman from the nobility married a peasant or merchant man then she would have to become part of that class. However since people generally did not marry just for love during that time they usually did not marry below their station, but it is possible if you have a particular story plot in mind for your Sims.
I'm so glad that you all like my challenge. I have been thinking about it for over a month but I finally got to typing it out last night.

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Author: Pinstar1161 - Rank: Supreme Social Sim - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 11:07 AM GMT

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Royalty huh? In contrast to the Legacy Challenge, perhaps you could introduce an inbreeding BONUS, if you want to keep everything historically accurate.
The Challenge sounds like a good idea!

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 11:09 AM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

Quoted from original message:
Royalty huh? In contrast to the Legacy Challenge, perhaps you could introduce an inbreeding BONUS, if you want to keep everything historically accurate.

Hehe, I was actually thinking about that...

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Author: Trixie9819 - Rank: Esteemed Personage of Prolixity - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 11:32 AM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

While gossiping with Pinstar, I thought about some ideas.
Not rules, but suggestions.
Career limitations:
Royalty would be limited to Artist, Natural Science, Paranormal, and Show Biz if they went to college. If they didn't, they would be limited to Politics and Science
College Grad Nobles the same as Royals, non grads limited to Athletic, Politics, Science.
Merchants, even if going to college, would be limited to Business, Law, Medical, Politcs, Science
Peasants would be limited to Criminal, Medical, Military, Slacker
ONE child of each class per generation (not per house, only per generation) could go to ANY job. Well, except Peasants still would only get the 10 basic jobs, but they could do any of those.
Consider, a genius Peasant becoming a Top Athlete or Politician, a Black Sheep Royal becoming a Criminal, lol. Oh the stories you can tell...
Also, I am assuming that the restriction on electronics is for all except the 'small electronics' Phone, burglar alarm, fire alarm. I think of them as a footman, or a neighbor that can go run a message to the constable about a prowler. Or to the Green Grocer, lol. Or to a friend to come visit. I can see never answering the phone, and not 'chatting' on it with friends, unless you consider that the same as writing a letter, and that would not be for peasants anyway :)
But those are my thoughts so far, I'm trying to figure out how I will fit this into my current challenges, lol

Trixie
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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 12:06 PM GMT

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Those are GREAT ideas Trixie!
I have been thinking about this challenge for a long time and I had considered career limitation's before, but I forgot to add them when I wrote it up last night. I like the specific limitations you suggested. I think I should add them.
I especially like the idea of having one Sim per generation being allowed to choose everything. In history there were a few people who were exceptions to the rules and were able to rise above their lot in life. I wanted to add something like that but I had no idea how to do it.
And your correct about the small electronics. I may have not been clear enough.
This is my first challenge so I love getting suggestions from people who are more experienced with this sort of thing.

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Author: Simaholic1998 - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 11:31 AM GMT

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First of all, I love the challenge I'm very excited to give it a try. I have a couple questions for you though. Just a bit of clarification to make sure I do it right
First for the Royal line do you start with just one person? Like a king or a queen and then have them marry? Or can you start with a king and a queen?
Then, when you are playing the classes is there a limit on how long you can play them. Like play each one for X number of days before moving on to the next?
Oooo, its all so interesting. Great job!

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 12:11 PM GMT

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I think it would be better to start the Royal family line but creating a King and Queen in CAS. But you have to find good matches for the princes and princesses.
I hadn't thought about a time limit on how long you play each family. That would help to keep the generations of all the families the same. Do you think I should add a time limitation? I have never done one myself so I don't know how effective it is.

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Author: Simaholic1998 - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 12:19 PM GMT

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I think adding a time limit might make for an interesting part of the challenge but it is your challenge so that is totally up to you
I know that when I play a neighborhood I like to keep my play spread evenly through the families that way the same kids don't keep popping up as friends. I'll usually play like 3-5 sim days per household before moving on to the next. But like I said this is your and I don't want to step on your toes for your brilliant idea

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Author: catootje30 - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 12:29 PM GMT

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In addition to Simaholics question: could you start the queen or king as a YA in college? Otherwise the first king/queen would be the only royal not having a college education.

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 12:41 PM GMT

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Quoted from original message:
In addition to Simaholics question: could you start the queen or king as a YA in college? Otherwise the first king/queen would be the only royal not having a college education.

Yes you could, but you would have to have them graduate and move back into the neighborhood before you start playing with the other families since the Kingdom can't run without a King or Queen!

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Author: Ravenbyrd229 - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 12:42 PM GMT

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I think this is a great challenge. I saw it last night and have looking around for medieval clothes and whatnot so I can have an authentic-looking neighborhood. Kudos to you for thinking this up!

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Author: Trixie9819 - Rank: Esteemed Personage of Prolixity - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 02:07 PM GMT (updated Jun-08-05 02:09 PM GMT)

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Another thought I had (while eating lunch, lol)
This is for people who don't want to use Motherlode.
Make a King&Queen in CAS (or YA CAS) and also make several non-related Sims to be Brides of the future generations. Have them move to the Family Bin separately, so you can merge them when you need them. King & Queen would be Founder1, Play them and have them have a Son (Founder 2 Generation). Marry the Son to the First Bride.
Then, make the Noble's houses. They will be Founder 2 generation as well. Have them go to college, or whatever and have children. Meanwhile the Heir will have a Son, who will be Founder 3 generation. Merge Bride 2 for his wife and do the same with the Nobles.
Then make the Merchant's houses. Second Verse, same as the first....
Then Peasant houses. If you limit the children to simply 'heirs' and move all the girl children out and delete them (consider them as having married to a family across the ocean).
Your Founder 4th generation would be the first "Playing" generation for the Royals. They would have been accumulating money, and career objects, aspiration objects, etc. It is very much the way it happened. The Royals became Royals, but they STAYED Royals because they had enough money to do what was needed, better than anyone else. From a certain point of view, lol.
Once you have all your families set up, Move them all to new lots and start the official challenge.

Another thought I had, lol. I think I'll make my Royals with my *ahem* Royal Purple skin, lol. That way I can track their offspring, lol. Perhaps the Nobles can be my Blue skin, and the Merchants the Alien Green skins, lol. Leaving the Peasants to be the 4 normal skin tones, lol.
Emblith you are EVIL to come up with this when I have so much going on!! :)

Trixie
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Author: didilungs - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 01:51 PM GMT (updated Jun-08-05 01:57 PM GMT)

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Brilliant!!! Absolutley excellent!!! Very good! Rated you bene! Must have took ages!!!!!!!!!!

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 06:54 PM GMT

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I spent a long time working on it last night, but I have also been thinking about it for over a month.

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Author: MedleyMisty - Rank: Supreme Social Sim - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 07:32 PM GMT (updated Jun-08-05 07:33 PM GMT)

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Great challenge! I think I'll take some time off the legacy challenge now that I'm about halfway through it and play this for a bit.
It will be a bit of a challenge for me with the women not having jobs and having to assume their husband's status and take their husband's names and all, but that is how it was back then.
I'll be playing under my account that has no downloads other than hacks to improve the game and fix bugs (no hacked objects or cheats or anything...although the hack that makes it so Sims get a percentage of their family's money when they move out and not the standard $20,000 would work well with this challenge, I think), but then I always change challenges a bit and play them my own way and never play them for scoring. I will keep true to all the other rules even if my Sims don't have medieval clothes or objects and don't eschew the more modern objects.
I know this doesn't have anything to do with it, but we just got a new black and white laser printer and I printed the rules out on it and man, that was a lot faster than the inkjet. :)
Off to go download some lots.

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Author: Trixie9819 - Rank: Esteemed Personage of Prolixity - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 07:54 PM GMT

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Oops, Merchants and Peasants can do Culinary. I completely skipped that job, lol.

Trixie
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Author: guardgurlag - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 08:36 PM GMT

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This is absolutely the best challenge I have seen in a long time! I love this idea! Wish I had thought of it. I'm going right now to search out clothing and such. Great job!! Thanks for posting links.

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Author: swiffner - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 09:55 PM GMT

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Wow I'm taking forever just setting up the families.... I'm so excited to actually start playing them! The families I have are Winspeare (Royal), Macbeth (Noble), Shakespeare (Noble), Fairbanks (Noble) Porter (Merchant) Creed (Merchant), Ferdinand (Peasant), Maxemheimer (Peasant), and Clarke (Peasant)

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 09:56 PM GMT (updated Jun-08-05 09:57 PM GMT)

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Quoted from original message:
Oops, Merchants and Peasants can do Culinary. I completely skipped that job, lol.

Oh, right. I can never remember what all the jobs are. You did a better good job remembering them then I would have done. I'll go add that one.

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 10:06 PM GMT (updated Jun-08-05 10:07 PM GMT)

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Quoted from original message:
Great challenge! I think I'll take some time off the legacy challenge now that I'm about halfway through it and play this for a bit.
It will be a bit of a challenge for me with the women not having jobs and having to assume their husband's status and take their husband's names and all, but that is how it was back then.
... but then I always change challenges a bit and play them my own way and never play them for scoring. I will keep true to all the other rules even if my Sims don't have medieval clothes or objects and don't eschew the more modern objects.

yes, I'm all for women's rights, but their not historically accurate for the time period.
If you have university, it comes with some medieval objects. I have seen some really cool castles available on the exchange that were made with no custom content. i think its perfectly fine to change the runes a bit if your not trying to keep score. Personally I don't like tracking points but I know that some people like them so I added them for those people. I'm really glad you want to try my challenge. Have fun!

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Author: Draftzilla2k - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-11-05 01:12 PM GMT (updated Jun-11-05 01:16 PM GMT)

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Quoted from original message:
yes, I'm all for women's rights, but their not historically accurate for the time period. (snip)

Speaking of women's rights, and the historical lack thereof, I have a suggestion for another constraint.
Dark Ages = No birth control (or far fewer, safe options), right?
I'd like to suggest that everytime a couple woohoos, they *must* choose "try for baby." Or at least that this rule applies to lower classes--either just peasant, or peasant and merchant.
The rule should be a pain in the historical arse for Romance Sims. :)
Likewise, paternity and inheritance, and by extension patriarchy and sexual morality was a much bigger issue (as it were) for upper classes with family names and material goods to pass down along subsequent generations. As a suggestion, not a rule per se, there would probably be a higher ratio of Romance Sims to Family Sims in the lower classes, where morality meant less, and infant mortality rates were high so there was less incentive to invest family resources in individual offspring.
~D2K

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Author: twooflower2 - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-08-05 10:14 PM GMT

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I LOVE your challenge! Even though I'm half-finished (or less) with over half a dozen challenges already, I plan to do this one too.
I think when I set up my families, I will use large lots for the Royalty and Noble classes, medium lots for the Merchant class, and the small lots for the Peasant families. That would definitely keep things more believable as the generations pass and the different families gain wealth. There's only so much room on a peasant-sized lot.

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Author: skye83644 - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-09-05 11:31 AM GMT

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I made a king and a queen, and gave each one a servant. The lesser nobles have at least one, and the chubby merchant has to deal with his sis-in-law....is this acceptable?

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-09-05 12:18 PM GMT

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I think it's all right for them to have servents, but if the servents want to get married or have kids then they have to move out and become part of the peasant class.

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Author: Draftzilla2k - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-09-05 10:26 PM GMT

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Congratulations on a brilliant challenge!
I have some homes uploaded that might be suitable for European or Victorian nobles. I've been looking for a building challenge and I'll try to work on some more historic homes that will help.

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-10-05 09:52 AM GMT

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That would be great. I know that some people don't really like building hoses. I like your Gothic Revival Mansion.

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Author: Trixie9819 - Rank: Esteemed Personage of Prolixity - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-10-05 10:48 AM GMT

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I can find castles with no problems. But Peasant Huts are MUCH harder to find.
I made one, but I'm a horrible builder. Any ideas where I can get a real Hovel, really cheap? lol

Trixie
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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-10-05 12:19 PM GMT (updated Jun-10-05 01:56 PM GMT)

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I have made some really cute tiny cottages in the past. I can try uploading the ones i make for my neighborhood for you. I'll have to try to make them under 20k though so the peasants can afford them. That means I can't do fun landscaping, so you're will have to add that after you Sims start earning some extra cash.
EDIT: I just went and made a darling little cottage with a thatched roof and everything but when I tried to uploaded it but I got an error message. I checked my Sim page just in case it still uploaded, but it's not there. Someone else will have to make some cottages.
Never mind! I got it to work!!
http://thesims2.ea.com/exchange/lot_detail.php?asset_id=179397
You can go download it now!!!
Unfortunetly a bunch of extra stuff uploded with it so you should install it with the clean install program so you don't install a bunch of stuff you don't want. I did use some great peasant walls and floors in it that you should install with it.

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Author: Draftzilla2k - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-11-05 01:52 PM GMT

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Quoted from original message:
That would be great. I know that some people don't really like building hoses. I like your Gothic Revival Mansion.

Thanks, Enblith. It was actually the first house I ever built!
I have just uploaded two small homes that should work for peasants:
1. 1 BR Rustic
http://thesims2.ea.com/exchange/lot_detail.php?asset_id=180129
2x3 lot, all wood cabin. Unfurnished except kitchen cabinets, fridge, stove included. If you want to convert to outhouse instead of indoor plumbing to particularly punish your peasants, the bathroom can demolish to extend the deck in back. House is off to side of lot to leave room for expansion to more bedrooms, or adding garden/farm space or other landscaping. Appropriate for Rural Peasants (as opposed to the exurban peasantry).
2. 2BR Peasant Tudor
http://thesims2.ea.com/exchange/lot_detail.php?asset_id=180123
I made this one specifically for the Royal Kingdom Challenge. :)
This wattle and daub, dirt-floor hovel includes outdoor outhouse, cozy sleeping space for 7, a pond, a market garden, a stone-wall kitchen, and absolutely no electric lights (if you will pretend will me that the lanterns are lit by flame).
I'll see what else I can do about more hovels. I have a great house that should work for aspiring Merchants or lesser Nobles as well that I'll upload later. I'll make families for these later as well.
~D2K

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-10-05 02:32 PM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

PLEASE REVIEW THE RULES, A FEW THINGS HAVE BEEN ADDED OR MODIFIED.

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Author: skye83644 - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-10-05 05:48 PM GMT (updated Jun-10-05 07:02 PM GMT)

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Okay, so I have made up several of the houses...Does anyone need a house or two? The ones I have already have occupants if you want them, or I can make up some more...I had a hard time trying to find outfits for all of them. Peasants can wear the kilts for the men, and one peasant dress was fine for all the ladies, but those finer clothes are really big files, and my pc is sooo full it's crawling, LOL! Okay, so it's not that bad yet, but it's being a pain. Some of the files from mts2 were empty, so I'm still checking around.
the houses I had trouble with were the merchant's. I had no clue what all they entailed. But I got the peasant's houses done, and the castles as well. I put the nobles in castles too, just not as big...
I am checking into the files you added, maybe to change my furniture a bit. I had to use the toilet, but I hid it, and the electronic stuff mentioned, in corners, or behind the ivy, so it doesn't look like it. Also, with the boolProp cheat, I was able to hide the small radio, which I put on the stone coffee table. I put loads of plants on the table, and hid it well enough.
I also found an outdoor market, in medieval style, from mts2, and made one up. I have uploaded them all to my sim page, if anyone's interested. They already have all the money they're allowed, but you can kick out my sims-if you like, and add your own sims....I even added a swimmable creek to a couple of them.
Am still enjoying the game....I have three gals preggers already! My content have Louis' eyes, so they are cool looking...
hugs, and kudos to you Enblith!

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Author: Trixie9819 - Rank: Esteemed Personage of Prolixity - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-10-05 08:30 PM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

Merchants (in my game) have big Peasant houses, lol. Just like Royals have big Noble houses. Merchants will have what we consider a 'normal' sized house. Peasants will have small hovels, Nobles will have Mansions or small Castles, Royals will have major Castles.
Well, not exactly, but that is the idea, lol.

Trixie
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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-10-05 09:58 PM GMT

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Re: Royal Kingdom Challenge

I have made five families so far. I still need to make the nobility and royals.
I was so excited when I saw the medieval market objects at modthesims few weeks ago but I havent uses them yet. There are some other cool things made by the same person.

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Author: Pinkify921 - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-11-05 08:43 AM GMT

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This sounds cool, I'm going to try it! Can we use modern objects (radios, tv, computers)?

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Author: Pinkify921 - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-11-05 08:51 AM GMT

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Oh and also, http://www.all-about-style.com has a victorian section. It has TONS of clothing.

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Author: Trixie9819 - Rank: Esteemed Personage of Prolixity - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-11-05 09:15 AM GMT (updated Jun-11-05 09:16 AM GMT)

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The only 'electronics' you are allowed are from the 'small electronics' section. Phone, burglar alarm, smoke detector, alarm clock.
You are not allowed to have any other electronics, or things like electric guitars, bass, drums, and myshuno.
Basically, think no electricity. It has not been discussed, but I"m not letting my houses have dishwashers, trash compactors, or food processors either. Fridges are allowed in my game, but only because they didn't have pizza delivery back then, lol
Royals and Nobles are allowed to have the cheapest stereo, and pretend it is hired musicians, lol.

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Author: Pinkify921 - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-11-05 10:51 AM GMT (updated Jun-11-05 10:59 AM GMT)

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Ok, thanks, I guess it will make it more authentic. I didn't know Myshuno was electronic. (pretend that's a confused smiley).
Edit: I'm making my families now and it's like part victorian/modern/medieval/other when it comes to their clothes.

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-11-05 12:25 PM GMT

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I'm glad you taking the challenge Pinky!
Trixie is correct about the electronics.
I finished making my families last night at around 12:30. I'm obsessed with details so it took me like 6 hours to make all the families. I really love my royal family. I gave them blond hair with golden clothes. They look like they're glowing, they have so much gold and yellow on them. I found a crown on modthesims that is in the glasses section so it can go with any hair. I think I have the link to it in my link post. The nobles all have black hair, merchants have red/orange, and peasants have brown. I made one of my peasant families gypsies with authentic gypsy names that I found on the internet. I made skins for my merchant and peasant class that have facial tattoos, a green (green for money) crescent moon for the merchants, and a leaf for the peasants.
People are having trouble finding peasant clothes. I have some that I can't remember where I got them so I will upload some tonight.
I have to go to work now so i can't do any more simming until tonight.

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Author: Ravenbyrd229 - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-11-05 12:47 PM GMT

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I found on mothesims2 a music box that is actually a stereo. Here's the link: http://www.modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=65320&highlight=music+box
It should look more authentic in your castle then the boombox lol.

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-11-05 12:57 PM GMT

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I can't get mod the sims site to work at all right now. Thanks for the link. I'll check it out later.

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Author: mordian40K - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Sep-06-05 12:48 PM GMT

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You are not allowed to have any other electronics, or things like electric guitars, bass, drums, and Royals and Nobles are allowed to have the cheapest stereo, and pretend it is hired musicians, lol.

They did have musical instruments, and it was the sign of a well rounded nobled that you could play an instruement. I think that you should be able to use them...at least until acoustic instruments are created.

Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Sep-06-05 11:31 PM GMT

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Yes they did have instruments. The piano is perfectly fine to use. My only problem with the instruments that came with University is that their electric. You can use them if you want to in the noble homes. I think they look really out of place so I don't use them, but I do sometimes buy them If a sim has a constant want for one and they can aford them. The I buy it and stick it in the basement for a day and then sell them back. There are some people who are playing the game in modern times so then there is no problem with the electronic instruments at all. It would be great though if someone took the guitar and made it into a lute. Maybe I go ask some people in ModTheSims...

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Author: LadyBSim - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-11-05 01:04 PM GMT

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I really want to start this challenge...however, since I don't typically use scoring...I am going to adapt it to my own playing style...by that I mean make it the Amazon Royal Challenge...the only change is switching the men's and women's roles. That just suits my...shall we say style better...LOL

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Date: Jun-11-05 05:27 PM GMT

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I really want to start this challenge...however, since I don't typically use scoring...I am going to adapt it to my own playing style...by that I mean make it the Amazon Royal Challenge...the only change is switching the men's and women's roles. That just suits my...shall we say style better...LOL

Heh...I didn't think of doing that. It'd fit me better too. Oh well...maybe a few generations from now there will be a women's rights movement in Yurt. :)

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-11-05 07:09 PM GMT

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I really want to start this challenge...however, since I don't typically use scoring...I am going to adapt it to my own playing style...by that I mean make it the Amazon Royal Challenge...the only change is switching the men's and women's roles. That just suits my...shall we say style better...LOL

Hehe, that should be interesting. I remember seeing an episode of Hercules where he stumbled upon an amazonian tribe. The women made the men all live in a little village outside their town and they only visited them to breed with then or drop of male children.
I actually don't keep score in challenges myself, but I added it in case there were some people who like to keep track of points as I have seen people do for the legacy challenge.

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Author: Draftzilla2k - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-11-05 01:29 PM GMT

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What do you do about aliens?
I'm thinking there are a few good options.
1. Low status option: Any man who gets pregnant with an alien is banished, and becomes an outcaste or peasant class as does his offspring.
OR
2. High status option: Any alien is regarded as a magical visitor and is automatically bumped in status or has access to a higher status level of privileges.
OR
3. Mixed option: pregnant men are banished to peasant class, but their offspring retain the father's original level of class options.
I guess it depends on your time period. The Victorian era, for example, strikes me as more xenophobic than the Renaissance.
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Date: Jun-11-05 02:31 PM GMT

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Hate to bug, but it is customary for the royalty to become military. So I have added military career to my royals....I am also considering redoing my homes, as I have 9mb houses! And momma don' likeee....slows my game down, and houses so big hard to catch up with them sometimes.....I have swimmable moats wiht my castles, as well

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-11-05 09:39 PM GMT

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A person with green skin in the medieval time would probebly be thought of as a monster. He/she might be persicuted or could join a traveling freak show.If the father was wealthy he might be able to get the athorities to overlook the child and just sent the child off to have a life in the church far away from the public eye.

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Date: Sep-06-05 12:34 PM GMT

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3. Mixed option: pregnant men are banished to peasant class, but their offspring retain the father's original level of class options.
I guess it depends on your time period. The Victorian era, for example, strikes me as more xenophobic than the Renaissance.

Actually the renaissace people were far more xenophobic. In the victorian era being different will relgate you to a freakshow or the bottom of the working class, being different in the renaissance can get you lynched, beaten, or hung depending on your "crime."
Don't follow the countries religion....congrats your going to be burned at the stake as a heretic.
Your a foreigner or an immigrant who is in the wrong place at the wrong time....your going to be beaten
Someone's cow dies under mysterious circumstances, or odd stuff starts happening in the village...well a witch is going to be "found" and probably hung.

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Date: Sep-06-05 06:50 PM GMT

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Actually the renaissace people were far more xenophobic. In the victorian era being different will relgate you to a freakshow or the bottom of the working class, being different in the renaissance can get you lynched, beaten, or hung depending on your "crime."
Don't follow the countries religion....congrats your going to be burned at the stake as a heretic.

I think this is a fairly simplistic view of a complex topic; during the renaissance there was a huge upheaval in religious views in European Christianity (often referred to as "The Reformation). There was a lot of religious debate, and in some cases, conflict, but in England, for example, there was also a lot of toleration of ideological difference. The same is true of other types of difference, too. Yes, some of the circumstances were dependent on economic status, but not all.

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Date: Jun-11-05 05:56 PM GMT (updated Jun-11-05 06:51 PM GMT)

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I hope no one minds that I'm not playing it completely straight, since I'm not in it for the scoring.
I've been thinking...is there any way for a family to go up a class? Like if a merchant class family makes a fortune, can they become nobles? Like maybe the eldest son could marry the female heir of a noble family that had no sons to inherit?
What about going down a class? Nobles do sometimes lose all their money and their estates.
I see the rule about women not going to college was added. I was wondering about that too, as women weren't really educated back then. I was also wondering about the priests, but I see you added the thing about a