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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-12-05 12:11 PM GMT

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The Rights Of Women Challenge

First Generation: Start by making a male and female pair in CAS. Make the male any aspiration you want, but the female must be a family sim and wear a traditional dress. This is your old-fashioned, traditional image of a perfect couple. There will only be one of these couples in the entire challenge, so make the most of them if you like this sort of set-up. Move them onto a lot and build a house. Get the male a job, but the woman must remain unemployed. She must get pregnant and keep on having children until she has had at least one female. Raise the children without boolprop.
Second Generation: The female must always wear 'traditional' clothing (read: dress/long skirt, normal sweaters and keep her hair up) but when she reaches teen, she can be a family or popularity aspiration. She may get a job in the Culinary, Slacker or Criminal career tracks, but she may not go to university. She must get married to a male, take her husband's name (if husband is an NPC/Townie, he will have to be asked to move in and propose to her) and move into her husband's house (or, if the husband is an NPC/Townie, they move out together and into a different house.) The male must have a better job than the female (use your own judgement as to what is better) and the female must have children until she has at least one female. She must give up her job when she's had a child. Once again, raise the children without boolprop.
Third Generation: The female can begin to wear plain trousers, but not jeans, decorated trousers, stomach showing tops or short skirts. At teen, she can become a family, popularity or wealth aspiration. She must have her hair up, but may get a job in the Culinary, Slacker, Criminal, Politics, Science or Athletic career tracks. She still mustn't go to university. She must get married to a male, take her husband's name (if husband is an NPC/Townie, he will have to be asked to move in and propose to her) and move into her husband's house (or, if the husband is an NPC/Townie, they move out together and into a different house.) The husband must have a better job than her (use your judgement as to what is better.) She must have children until she has at least one female child, but she may keep her job when she is a mother and hire a nanny instead. Yet again, raise the child without boolprop.
Fourth Generation: The female can wear jeans (at last!), but not decorated trousers, short skirts or stomach showing tops. She is finally allowed to have her hair down, but not elaborate. At teen, she can become a family, popularity, wealth or romance sim. She may finally go to university and is allowed to do the Drama, Art, Literature or History majors, but is not allowed to drop out while there of her own free will; however, she must drop out as soon as she is put on academic probation, if that became a circumstance. She may get a job in the Culinary, Slacker, Criminal, Politics, Science, Athletic, Military, Paranormal, Show Business, Artist or Natural Scientist career tracks. She must get married to a male, but does not have take her husband's name anymore - he can take hers instead. They may continue living with his or her parents until the parents die, but cannot have children until they are in their own house, so they must move out before she is 5 days away from elderhood. She must have children until she has at least one female child.
See next post for other generations, rules and points.

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-12-05 12:12 PM GMT (updated Jun-12-05 12:13 PM GMT)

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Re: The Rights Of Women Challenge

The Rights Of Women Challenge continued:
Fifth Generation: She can wear any clothes she wants and wear any kind of hairstyle. She can become any aspiration and must (not can, must) go to university; she can study any major there. She may drop out at will, have a second chance if put on academic probation and she can get any job when/if she graduates. She doesn't have to fall in love, but if you do want her to it can be with a female if she wants to be homosexual.. She can join union with a female, marry a male if she wishes ... but she doesn't have to; they could just live together in a house. She doesn't have to be married to have a child if she is heterosexual and may adopt with her partner if she is homosexual. They can live together in either of their parents' houses, even with children. She doesn't have to even have children if she doesn't wish to (or you don't wish her to.) Basically, she can do anything she wants - bear in mind this privileage is very recent in real life.
The Rules
There are various rules within each generation - read each generation for those rules. But there is one general rule: no boolprop/other cheats unless mentioned otherwise (move_objects is allowed for use in building and bugged objects.)
The Points
Start with 500 points for each generation and minus 10 points every time a rule for that generation is broken. At the end, add up all the points and see how close you come to 2,500. The closer you are, the more accurately (according to history) you've done it.
I'd just like to point out there's nothing wrong with still being a housewife and raising children - my own mother is - but I'm trying to show how far our rights have come in this challenge. I hope you enjoy playing it and please keep me updated on how your attempt is coming.

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Author: Animaluver215 - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-12-05 12:17 PM GMT

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Re: The Rights Of Women Challenge

I'll definetly try it! I'll try to make an album for each generation if you want to keep up with it.

Author: Twoyys4me - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-12-05 12:26 PM GMT (updated Jun-12-05 12:27 PM GMT)

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It's brilliant- really well thought out...
I have one question.. if each generation's first birth is a girl, can they just have one child? oh, and another question- are we allowed to use custom content for clothes?
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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-12-05 12:54 PM GMT

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Yes to custom content, as long as it fits in with the rules.
And yes, if the first child in a generation is a girl, you can just leave it at one child ... although, before you reach about the fourth and fifth generation, families were often large, so if you're doing it absolutely correctly, you would probably want to have more.

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-12-05 12:59 PM GMT

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I'd love to read that album and see what people get up to. I might do that myself, if I can figure out how to do it properly ... not boring, but accurate.

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Author: EnblithTheFair - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-12-05 12:34 PM GMT

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That's a really good challenge. it's important for woman to be reminded about how hard past generations (in real life) had to fight to get equal rights. Still women don't get paid as much as men, but hopefully that will change one day.

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Author: Animaluver215 - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-12-05 12:36 PM GMT

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Re: The Rights Of Women Challenge

What generation of dress? like one of those green or pink dresses the adults can wear?

Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-12-05 12:53 PM GMT

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Yes, that sort of thing.

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-12-05 12:58 PM GMT

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Well, that's actually where the idea came from - real life. I was watching a TV show called 'Big Ideas that Changed the World' and it was about feminism (this challenge was called the Feminism Challenge to begin with); it struck me how recent most of our rights were. I thought it would be a challenge for most players of TS2 to play the game to the restrictions women faced - a bit like rules - and the idea was born. I just developed it at bit more, then wrote it out, trying to be as accurate as possible. I'm glad people like the idea of it so much.

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Author: Prplsim - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-12-05 01:10 PM GMT

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finally a really good idea for a challange! a lot of other ones are boring like making the best sim.. .so yea, im glad there's another good one besides legacy! im definatley trying it... maybe ill make a story out of it too.

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-12-05 01:15 PM GMT

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The popularity of this challenge an hour later is really surprising ... people seem to really like it. I haven't seen another challenge like it, so maybe it's the originality?
Anyway, I'm pleased; I really think people will find it a fun challenge to live to restrictions women faced in the past. And if anyone else is making an album, let me know when they're uploaded - I'd really like to read them.

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Author: Draftzilla2k - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-12-05 02:52 PM GMT

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Re: The Rights Of Women Challenge

Congrats on a really brilliant challenge, fluffydevil. I hope all the players will keep us posted on their progress.
One suggestion (that, ironically, I raised more or less in the original Royal Kingdom Challenge thread as well): no rights for women = no birth control, which is, of course, why those "old fashioned families" were so damned large.
Up until the generation where women get pants (= approx the sixties), I'd suggest that any time you woohoo, you have to pick try for baby. "Baby Roulette" should help further approximate the real world conditions for those first few generation.
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Author: kkjhmthomas - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-12-05 06:12 PM GMT

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I am deffinitally going to do the challenge. I gave you a bene for coming up with a good one.
Draftzilla2k I think that is a great idea and even if fluffydevil doesn't add it in as a rule I will do that.

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-13-05 08:14 AM GMT

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I'm so pleased people are enjoying it so much. Thanks for the bene kkjhmthomas.
I might not add it as an official rule, but just because it isn't in there as an official rule doesn't mean people aren't free to make up their own ones to use.

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-13-05 12:24 AM GMT

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That's a very good idea - I might add that in.

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Author: ScholarLadySims - Rank: Babblative BBSer - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-15-05 01:58 AM GMT

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I love this challenge and if I can only force myself to complete a challenge which has long-term (more then when the children reach teens - more then from infancy to elder - 5 GENERATIONS!_) - well, I'm going to try to force myself...
Women have ONE legally mandated right in this nation - the right to vote - everything else is not legally binding. AND - we are in danger of losing some of what we consider rights -
I was in high school when even the nicest pants outfit was not allowed - and when I was first in college there were only a few "respectable" majors women could take. Then a decade later - women still had all of the child-rearing, all of the housework, all of the cooking - but were also expected to work at an outside job to provide the means for the family to "keep up with the Jones's"... and - "girls" basically went to college for the purpose of "finding the right man" to fulfill her life.
So glad things are better now - but better still is not equal - we still have work to do!

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Aug-05-05 02:35 AM GMT

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It's nice to find someone who agrees so passionately.
We were recently doing some thing in English where we were thinking how we'd like our life to pan out someday (then writing about it, which was bad) and I was really shocked to find every single one of the girls in the class (apart from me; if I can't have Duncan - and I can't, although I'd like to - I won't have anybody ... and children just drive me crazy) wanted to marry young and have loads of children. They didn't seem to care one little bit about careers or anything else - just husbands and children.
Now, I could understand if they wanted to marry and have kids early-mid thirties, but they wanted it all before they've really had anything else in life; it's as if 15 girls have been taught they're never going to be any good at anything in life apart from marriage and having children. Probably, not all of them even want loads of kids - they've just been fed the idea that it's a "woman's role in life", as a lovely (completely not lovely) boy in my class put it.
And - here's possibly the worst part of it all - they all judged me for not wanting it; I understand that my entire family just dies with me if I don't have kids, but I can't force myself to want something that I go nuts at; at least I'm thinking out of the box!
And that was part of the point of this challenge - not to tell people never to have children, but to show that they idea they can have nothing else in life is really old fashioned (5 generations, in the challenge ... although if I was doing it true to life, we'd have endless generations of the first gen. set up, before anything even happened) and there's so much more.

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Author: ScholarLadySims - Rank: Babblative BBSer - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Aug-05-05 11:01 PM GMT

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You have reason to be very proud of yourself - to KNOW that you are a capable, talented, EQUAL human being first - then a woman...
I was taught that to have a "career" was necessary - in case I had to help my husband with financial income or had to support myself due to a major accident or death of spouse. And my parents would counter in the stages of "I want to be a nurse" with "be a doctor - females are just as intelligent as males" - but I was also taught that the man was "the HEAD of the house" and would make all decisions, tell me what car and color we would buy, which house we would live in, what we would do for fun - how to vote.... and priority - to not mix "social classes" by involving my "bleeding heart" into affairs of minority groups - leave them to solve their own problems! - gratefully, my daughter clicked a tiny button in my being a few years ago and I discovered the ability to think for myself, and the passion within me to advocate until ALL minorities have the same rights, responsibilities, opportunities, ability to choose, freedoms and legal status as the "majority" - which is why my "Woman's Liberation" family will end with replicas of my wonderful daughter and her lovely and loved life-partner - who should be allowed to legalize their loving and magical relationship. My daughter - and my daughter-should-be-in-law...
I have passion for womens rights because as my life in speeding toward physically 60 - I see the vast difference in how women still do not have the rights they deserve - and my legacy would be to leave this earth having contributed to same-sex marriage, minority in ethnicity-skintone-belief system-sexual orientation-others no longer victims of discrimination - and women acknoledged as equal in all areas.. what a wonderful thing to leave to all females who are younger!
This fall I am taking a course in "Introduction to Womens Studies" - hopefully this professor will be enlightened and include all gender issues - if not, I will introduce it...

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Aug-06-05 12:54 PM GMT

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I've always thought same gender marriages should be allowed; I know what it's like, to love someone, but know you can never announce how much you love them - not officially, anyway (although I'm talking about Duncan here, not another woman.)
I've always been proud of myself; just to prove to people I'm an equal, I'm going to enter a profession mainly dominated by men - I have no idea, by the way, what ... yet - and have a good daily laugh about it.
I'd get a divorce if I ever ended up to someone who tried to tell me what house we were living in or how I should vote ... and I'm not kidding! If it ended up costing me too much, I'd just move away - be legally married, but never having contact. Good for your daughter, telling you you don't have to be inferior.
You say you'd like to leave the legacy of equality for everyone, but it's already taking place; if more young women started thinking like I already do, gender discrimination would be wiped out in a few generations ... but that's not quick enough.

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Author: pandoram84 - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Sep-21-05 07:04 AM GMT

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I wish to be married in 3 years but I deeply respect women who have the courage to chace their careers.

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Date: Mar-11-07 09:16 PM GMT

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Quoted from original message:
That's a really good challenge. it's important for woman to be reminded about how hard past generations (in real life) had to fight to get equal rights. Still women don't get paid as much as men, but hopefully that will change one day.

That's so true.
I belive in woman's rights.
And that job thing is soo unfair(but I don't thing it's ture for every job and I think it also depeneds on where you live).

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Date: Mar-12-07 01:52 PM GMT

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It's not true for all jobs - but it is true of most. It is "undiscovered" because there are different "job titles" often given - which infer that the job duties are not the same - but they are. Big - and small - business also gets away with the continued discrimination against women in the job industry by simsply failing to promote - even if the female is the better trained, more dependable and efficient. They do not have to give a reason for an employee being passed over for promotion - or not hired - as long as there is not, in writing, a statement that it was due to gender.
On average - a woman, doing the exact same job as a man, in the same industry, earns 87cents to every dollar a man earns. This is a fact which is found in the Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics...
Only a few years ago I replaced a male on the job, a step up supposedly for me, when he left to go to another company. He had been paid $18 per hour. I was being paid $10. After I learned the duties I asked when my salary would be raised - and was told it would not be - that he earned more because he is a man and someday will marry and need to support a family and in meantime he was self supporting -..... I was mid-50s then, newly separated, dependant upon my earnings alone to support myself and my 17 yr old son! Until then - I also said I did not think the discrimination happened as a rule but as an exception - it is the other way around.
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Author: Ziese52 - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-12-05 08:15 PM GMT

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I really like you idea for a new challenge. It really is amazing how far we have come in what our rights are. I am going to post this to the yahoo group I run for challenges. It's a nice contrast to the Royal Kingdom Challenge that has everyone there very excited right now. Both are trying to have you treat your sims the way they were during their different time periods, but if a person were to play the two at the same time it would truely show how far women's rights have come. Anyway, great idea!

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Author: Ziese52 - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-12-05 08:25 PM GMT

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Oh and another idea would be to create a neighborhood with say 5 families all playing at the same generations. If you played each house equally you could have a whole little '40s, '50s, '60s and so on community going. You could also bring in some ideas with different races marrying, since that is something that has only been accepted for a relatively short time in the US.

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-13-05 08:19 AM GMT

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The different decades idea: I have done that in the past, but the aim of this challenge isn't really the same as that. I did enjoy it, however.
The races idea: Once again, the aim of this challenge is to show how far women's rights have come, but you do have a valid point and, even though I'm not going to add it as an official rule, you are free to play by it if you wish. Just because I haven't written it doesn't mean you can't play by it.

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Author: Ziese52 - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-13-05 09:57 AM GMT

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I was just mentioning the different decades because each generation seems to fall into a different decade (or a couple decades together) as far what was expected from women.
And the race thing, I wasn't saying it needed to be a rule, just a suggestion for others if they wanted. I know it isn't related specifically to women's rights, but rather the rights of all. I was watching the Greatest American on the Discovery Channel and they were just talking about Martin Luther King Jr. and Abraham Lincoln, so I had equal rights of all on my mind and I was thinking about how far different groups rights have come. I tend to make things more complicated than they need to be, so I think when I do this one I will do it this way just for an added twist.

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-13-05 08:16 AM GMT

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Definitely - I read the Royal Kingdom challenge and it's also kind of what spurred me on to complete this one, although it was inspired by a TV show (see a previous post.) The women had restrictions I don't agree with there and I wanted to show how far our rights have come. If someone did play them at the same time, it would show a lot.

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Author: Destanie45 - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-13-05 07:40 AM GMT

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This sounds like a fun challenge! I do have one question though... What about if you don't have the Uni expansion? In generation 5 the rules say "She can become any aspiration and must (not can, must) go to university; she can study any major there." Would I just lose points is not going even an option?
Thanks for being so creative!
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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-13-05 08:20 AM GMT

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I think there can be exceptions if you don't have university. You lose no points.

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Author: Destanie45 - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-13-05 09:11 AM GMT

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Thank you!!
*hugs*
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Date: Jun-13-05 03:53 PM GMT

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This is a really wonderful idea! I love your way of using the game to teach people a little about history and changes, and the importance of same to our daily lives.
I have to admit, I cringe a bit whenever a very, very young lady is stating her opinion that "women belong in the home". I always want to remind them that the point is, nowadays, you can *choose* to do that. Or choose not to do that. (Of course, you can only choose to stay home with your kids if you have enough income from some other source--be it husband, parents, past savings, etc--to have that option. Something few women have now, and even fewer had in the past. But that's a whole other subject!)
Kudos to you!

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Date: Jun-14-05 08:14 PM GMT

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I am currently working on this challenge...it rocks, by the way. But, my poor simmies keep having little boys....I need my sims to have a little girl so I can continue the challenge...
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Date: Jun-17-05 06:32 PM GMT

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I just though I would tell everyone that if an "authentic" hairstyle is wanted for the first and second generations - sussifriberg on mts2 has "old fashioned" and "Gibson Girl" styles for download. I will be starting this today. I plan to begin with "Abigail Adams - wife of John Quincy Adams" and the second generation (Gibson Girl era) will be "Elizabeth Cady Stanton" and her husband - third generation with be flapper generation, followed by the 1950s then today's era.

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Date: Jun-24-05 12:14 AM GMT

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Here's tonights update on my family,
Life has gotten easier, Abby and Adeline are teens and well able to help out around the house. The twins (both sets) are children now and more self sufficient. The parents Abigale and Jordan moved into the nursery after the boy twins grew to children so Abby, J.J., and Josh could share the master bedroom. Adeline, Alice, and Annie share the third bedroom.
All the children learned the toddler skills and grew up well.
Adeline maxed the logic skill (quite accidently because one of the few things the family owns that promotes fun is the chess board and it was a quick way to get her out of her parents hair)
All the children except Annie, J.J., and Josh have learned to study.
Abby is going to start looking for a potential husband soon (or maybe Jordan will look for one for her as well as the other girls) she'll grow to adult only three days after Josh and J.J, become teens. J.J. is going to inherit the house his parents live in (I'll have to create a ghost family for his story). I'll post the first story of this challenge on my sim page after Amelia and Jordan pass away. Followed by the family stories of each child/grandchild of Amelia and Jordan's. (I might combine the twins' stories into one story per set or start picking and choosing story families)

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Date: Aug-05-05 02:48 AM GMT

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My founding couple were lucky enough to get a girl as their first baby, although I am debating waiting until little Louisa is 2 days off of being teen and getting her mother pregnant again, just for some fun.

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Author: socontagious144 - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Aug-04-05 08:58 PM GMT

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Wow, this is a really good challenge. I'll have to remember it for when I'm done with the Legacy Challenge

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Date: Aug-06-05 02:49 AM GMT

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What a great challenge!!! It sounds like fun, I'll begin on it as soon as I finish the Legacy Challenge. This was a great idea, and very inspiring for women. Thanks!

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Date: Aug-06-05 12:46 PM GMT

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Thanks - that was part of the idea, to inspire women.
The complete story is somewhere in my blog (once you trawl past my Duncan hang-up messages and lost confidence one), but, in a nutshell: I was watching a TV show about the developments in womens' rights, realised how much of a challenge I'd find RL if I had to live by the restrictions ... and I modified it for a TS2 challenge, this post being the result.
People are always saying they'll remember my challenges - I love knowing people think them worthy of remembering.

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Author: Vixnbrianaf4 - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Mar-13-06 11:41 PM GMT

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I, myself, am a house-wife. I'm only 23. But I am a 'traditional' housewife, by traditional i mean that i cook, clean, take care of the children, run errands and thats about it until I have free time then I do things that are fun to occupy time. I know of a lot of house wives now adays that do nothing but sit on their butts and complain, even have affairs which I find to be quite wrong. The way I see it is if you are not working outside of the home then it is your job to take care of the home souly by yourself. I'm not going to say I don't live by modern standards such as, if my husband does something I don't like i tell him how i feel about it. He is expected to help with the children when he is home from work, i talk to whomever I wish to talk to and I do/wear whatever I want, I don't live like its 1950 or something! I think this is a good challeng and may help people to realize how far women have come in the past 50 or 60 years!!! Thank you for making this challenge! I will definatly give it a spin!

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Date: Oct-15-06 12:10 PM GMT

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Very original challenge!
I also appreciate how you respect a womans' right to stay home with children if she wishes- my stepmother stayed home with her children for twenty yers before making a profession out of her hobby.
As soon as my Legacys complete, I'll be sure to try this challenge. Bookmarked and bened!

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Date: Oct-15-06 02:08 PM GMT

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I also appreciate how you respect a womans' right to stay home with children if she wishes

What women fought for was choice, to have the choice to do whatever they want, not so that they had to break out of the traditional roles. If respect towards women who choose to stay at home wasn't shown, it would defeat the entire purpose of feminism.
On a lighter note, I'm glad you want to try out the challenge. I've recently begun it again (I finished it successfully one time) so I can document it, produce a little 5-album series of it.

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Author: Aprilise - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Mar-07-07 10:03 PM GMT

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This sounds really fun...
Just one question
Are there updates for the rules about Pets and Seasons
Can the family have pets? What about the new Seasons jobs, what about the new gardening/fishing aspects.
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Date: Jun-12-05 06:30 PM GMT

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Sounds like fun! I'll try it when I have some free time...

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Author: Pinkify921 - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-12-05 08:08 PM GMT

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This sounds really cool, I think I'll try this one first before the other ones I'm starting (I really want to make it past generation 2!). By traditional dress, you mean like below the knees, around the ankles right?

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Another great challenge! I am a challenge nut (I've got a whole bunch going) and I am always on the look-out for a new and original challenge. Benes for you!

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-13-05 08:21 AM GMT

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I'm so pleased people like the idea.

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-13-05 12:25 AM GMT

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Yes, that sort of thing.

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Date: Jun-13-05 08:34 AM GMT

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I hope you do - I've got surprisingly far in half an hour with it.

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Date: Jun-13-05 09:36 AM GMT

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Oh goody! I like this challenge a lot, and I'm of -- off -- CRAP! I can't start it until after work!
Well, I'll get on it right after work then, I guess!

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Date: Jun-13-05 02:07 PM GMT

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Hope you enjoy it when you do get round to it. After just an hour, my first generation couple have a lovely house and their first baby, a girl called Louisa.

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Date: Jun-13-05 02:10 PM GMT (updated Jun-23-05 08:28 AM GMT)

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A few extra things: You don't need to worry about any male children in the family or more than one female child; you'll only need one female to carry it on, so you could kill the other, move the others out and forget/delete them or play them anyway if you have time.
Just because I haven't written something in as a rule doesn't mean you're not free to make up your own ones to play by. You also don't need my permission; I know a few people here already who have had extra ideas. You could use any extra rules as guidelines or a minus-points thing.
If you've reached the last ever pregnancy your sim can have and still have no girl, you may reload as necessary to get one. I also never say you can't reload...
If I haven't put it as a rule, there's nothing saying you can't do it. I never say you have to have large families, I don't say you can't kill sims for ease. Also, read the rules literally and follow them exactly; you'll be surprised by how many restrictions you put on yourself because you read too much into the rules. I have made the rules the exact way they should be ... nothing more, nothing less.
I'll add other extra stuff as I think of them; I won't always put 'Edit:...' first, though.

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Date: Jun-13-05 02:22 PM GMT

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My thought was to do it all in reverse. Start out with an Emancipated Female and work back to generation 6 or 7 where you cannot direct yoru female to DO anything (hands off, but free will on). Anything that doesn't have to do with the house, or the children, or taking care of hubbie.
No studying, no meeting neighbors, no initiating 'try for baby'. All of those would be controlled by the man :)
Well, as much as studying can be controlled by another, lol. but you see what I mean.
That would really show what women used to go thru, by doing it in reverse you slowly lose your rights.
But it is just a thought :)

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Date: Jun-14-05 12:23 AM GMT

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That's actually a very good idea; personally, I'd like to be positive and show mow much we've gained, but if you want to do it in reverse - as long as you stay to the same rules - that's fine. It'll work out to basically the same thing.

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Author: alderdicesims - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-14-05 03:15 PM GMT

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What could I possibly say to show you how much I love this challenge. I'm studying history in high school and part of the cirriculum is about the evolution of women's rights. I even researched and wrote a paper on the topic. Sadly, TS2 limits us in making this challenge as life like and accurate as possible. But it's worth a try. I've never tried a challenge, but I definately will try this. I also love the ideas of only trying for baby during the first generations and making several families for an entire woman's rights neighborhood. Great suggestions and I will definately link it in my blog! I'll also sign your guestbook and tell you when I've uploaded my story.

Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-18-05 01:38 AM GMT

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The idea was to make it fun and to show how far women's rights have come. I'm pleased it's corresponding with your actual education.
I do wish there was an option not to send kids to school, because the older generation's females wouldn't have gone ... but sadly that isn't an option. Thus, I've tried to make it as realistic as possible, but there are certain things I can't stop.

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Date: Jun-23-05 04:46 PM GMT

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I noticed on MTS2 that there is a hack which stops the school bus from coming and the social worker from knowing apparently... When my "Founding Father and Mother" - Abigail and John Quincy Adams - have a daughter become child age, I will call in sick for her every couple of days - and the times she is in school, consider it the "finishing school" wealthy families sent daughters to in the time that John Quincy was helping to establish America...
Boys of course went to "Day School" and also were tutored at home in the philosophers of old and current times, languages and - imo - in how to establish total dominion over females...
Abigail is now pregnant, just ending her first trimester. John Quincy obtained a job in of all unplanned events - politics.

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Date: Jun-14-05 05:04 PM GMT

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Great challenge. I recently started a new town that I can turn into this a version of this challenge. I have four families, Bronson and Abigail Alcott (Louisa May's parents), Isabelle and William Frost (Robert's parents), John and Mary Emerson (Ralph Waldo's parents) and George and Cassandra Austen (Jane's parents)
...I was feeling literary that day and felt like playing on Google All of them have already had their first child. Not all of the women are family aspiration but most of them are.
I do use motherlode (too depressing until they make enough money to buy things and I enjoy building houses) but no other cheats. Since my families are upper middle class, I have another variation. None of the primary families have been to college but I do have a "nanny school" that I send girls off to to learn cooking and cleaning then have them drop out of school in their sophomore year and move them into the homes. Still sort of works for the traditional role of women. I haven't decide if the nannies can get married and haven't decided who they will marry if they do.
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Date: Jun-14-05 05:18 PM GMT

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Ok, this is way to much fun. I made a new neighborhood. I put 3 couples in there. I didn't want all the girls to have to marry NPC type simmies. Besides, since I dont have Uni, I cant let the kids grow up togerther. This way all my babies will have friends that grow up with them. :)
I have 3 babies so far. One little girl in one family, a set of twin girls in another. My other couple is pregnant and due anytime! This is the first time I have ever had twins in my game, so I am very excited!
Other than for having more than one family, I'm following your rules fluffy.
Thanks!
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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-18-05 01:47 AM GMT

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I'm making a few families for my girls to marry in CAS. I'm going to give them the apropriate amount of generations ... I don't like my family trees looking uneven.
Glad you're enjoying the challenge. My own attempt got to the first baby (a girl, Louisa), then had to make way for my new series, All Gothed Up; I've been promising it for so long now. However, AGU is due to finish in early September, if I keep the releasing of episodes regular, so I will go back to my challenge family and restart where I left off.

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-18-05 01:42 AM GMT

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There are all sorts of variations that can be used with this challenge. Don't just play by my uninventive rules ... feel free to do it your own way. As long as my rules aren't broken, there's nothing stopping you from still doing this exact challenge.

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Author: alderdicesims - Rank: Overmodest Orator - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-14-05 07:07 PM GMT

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I really must get busy. It's so nice to read about other simmer's families. I've just made my first couple which I plan on starting with. I can't focus if I make all of my families at once, so I plan on starting a family, playing with them for a few days, then starting a new family. I'll continue that until I have several families. I was also wondering what type of clothes some of you have been using for your first generation. I'll be using victorian clothes I downloaded.

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Date: Jun-14-05 08:03 PM GMT

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It's a good idea to create several families at once and put them on lots with just a phone even if you aren't planning to play them for awhile. Chances are they'll come to visit the family you're playing and when you get around to playing the other family, they'll already have friends.
There are only two long dresses that I've found in the original game. I downloaded tons of stuff in the original Sims, but haven't really downloaded much in Sims2.

Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-18-05 01:56 AM GMT

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That's basically what I'm doing; making some 'marriage' families, putting them on lots and giving them a phone, waiting for my next heiress to phone them for that relationship.

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-18-05 01:54 AM GMT

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Cool, where did you get the victorian clothing?
I'm just making a few 'marriage' families first, then getting to with my actual challenge family ... when my latest series, All Gothed Up, is finished, that is...

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-17-05 02:11 PM GMT

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Sorry I haven't been by for some time, but when I wanted to catch up, the BBS kept crashing and I couldn't. I'm very tired right now (it's 10:15PM here in Britain), but I will catch up and reply to everyone either tomorrow or Sunday.

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Date: Jun-19-05 12:12 PM GMT (updated Jun-19-05 12:13 PM GMT)

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All of my Victorian clothing is from www.all-about-style.com. However, I've decided to use more modern dresses instead, simply because I'm having difficulty finding just the look I want.
Also, for the second generation, how long is long. Would you consider a hem at the knee long or does it have to be to the ankles?

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Date: Jun-23-05 05:07 PM GMT

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I am tracking the major evolvements in women's lives by having my first generation the era of the establishment of America as a free country - second generation will have Elizabeth Cady Stanton and her husband; the start of women fighting for their rights with the Seneca Falls Convention- about 1890, third generation will be Susan B Anthony and based in the 1920s, fourth will be the 1950s and Gloria Steinam, and the fifth I think will be the late 1970s as that is when women could get loans, sign leases etc without co-signers, and then I plan a sixth generation which is now and my young adult, college graduate, lesbian daughter and her partner...
I have actually begun this challenge and taken care to follow the basic theme of it - unlike my usual just thinking/planning on doing a challenge lasting over one age group... I did the "reverse pretty sims" challenge as boolProp aging a newborn into an adult within 3 sim hours was a doable for focus-endangered me.

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-24-05 12:02 PM GMT

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I have basic plans for my own family - their names are pre-planned and decided according to the role they play in the evolvement of women's rights; I know my last gen is going to be homosexual, but not much more.

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Author: ScholarLadySims - Rank: Babblative BBSer - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-23-05 05:09 PM GMT

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I did a quick search of the sims exchange just putting "Victorian" in the search and got back over 200 hits...

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-24-05 12:04 PM GMT

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Good idea - I was in a blonde mood when I didn't think of that (no offence to blondes; technically, I am a very dark blonde/very light brown hair colour ... my avatar looks fairly like me, but I could get the hair colour, so settled for the one I want to be. I'm nearly there ... at last!)

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Date: Jun-21-05 01:54 PM GMT

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This is an interesting challenge and very creative! I'm about to play TS2 so I'm going to get started on it asap. Though I have a feeling my sims are going to be mean and decide to have nothing but boys...I might do it without the point system (unless the points thing is a must?) and I don't have Uni yet...Ah well. Bene for you for this oh-so-creative challenge!

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Date: Jun-21-05 07:02 PM GMT

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I've started this in a brand new neighborhood (Like I really need another neighborhood to play). I'm only on the first generation with Jordan and Amelia Sim. Jordan is in Business and Amelia stays at home to care for the children (and cook and clean which is really hard to have her do everything she's passed out several times). Their first child was a girl named Abby (Abigale Jane) and Amelia is currently pregnant with a second child (I had played through this pregnancy and almost through a third but the power went out so I lost their second child). I'm sticking as close to the clothing rules as possible (with the game choices only) but when Amelia is pregnant I can't control the maternity clothes so she ends up in slacks but when I do have a choice in the matter she is in a dress. I think I'm going to let the first generation be big with six children and progressively get smaller the second generation will have no more than 5 (barring twins) and the third will have 4 each, and so on and so on.
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Date: Jun-23-05 08:22 AM GMT

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I'm trying to keep it to minimum children, so my first gen only have 1 child (a daughter, Louisa.) All of the names are according to the role they play to get all their rights.
I can't plan much, but my last generation's female will be homosexual ... I know that much!

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-23-05 08:19 AM GMT

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No, the points are optional. I just added it for those who like to compare themselves ... if you don't want to do points, fine.

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Date: Jun-22-05 02:18 PM GMT (updated Jun-22-05 02:21 PM GMT)

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I'm trying it! But, I had a very hard time finding the 1st generation clothing. I settled with something unrealistic - hope you won't mind

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Date: Jun-22-05 03:30 PM GMT (updated Jun-22-05 10:56 PM GMT)

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I'm currently still playing the 1st and 2nd generation (I don't have many downloads so anything I use is in game only the girls dresses are a little short and the mom is relegated to the pink polka dot dress, excluding when she's pregnant then she's in the default maternity clothes which I have no idea how to change)
My first generation couple are Jordan and Amelia Sim and so far they have four children
Abby (Abigale Jane Sim)
Adeline (Adeline Joanna Sim)
and the twins
Alice (Alice Julia Sim) and Annie (Annie Joyce Sim)
Amelia is currently pregnant again hoping for a boy (besides if I'm sticking to historical there is no birth control)
This is getting easier because Abby is old enough to help with the housework.
Update:
Well Jordan got his wish for a boy and then some. Abigale's fourth pregnancy resulted in twins!
J.J. (Jordan James Sim II) and Josh (Joshua Alexander Sim). This family is going to be hectic for awhile both parents are in the red motive wize, Abby is now a teen and is also in the red, Adeline, Annie, and Alice are children, and the boys J.J. and Josh are toddlers. Abby and Adeline aren't doing too well in school (I need their grades up so they can stay home and help around the house) No one is happy. I'm going to take a break and hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to get them on track so I can start teaching the boys their toddler skills. By the time the girl twins are teens Abby should be out and married with kids of her own. This is going to be hectic till I can get them on a schedule. At least the older kids are old enough to take care of the house and Abby can help with the boy twins.

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-23-05 08:25 AM GMT

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I'm only having the minimum children because it is so hard. I state 'one child must be a girl'; I never say they need large families.

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Author: Aprilise - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-23-05 10:47 AM GMT

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They were planning on stopping at 4 children but Jordan convinced Amelia to try just one more time for a boy and well lets say they weren't expecting twins :)

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Date: Jun-24-05 12:06 PM GMT

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Normally, I love sims ... but I hate it when they pop out of the blue in one of my attempts to not use cheats. Luckily, to prevent such occurences, I installed a quads patch; I can now decide to just opt for a single baby until I get used to no cheats.

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-23-05 08:25 AM GMT

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The traditional clothing is hard because there aren't that many styles. Teens are also very hard to cope with - I had to put Louisa in a formal-type dress because it was the only thing that came below the knees! If people have downloaded anything off this site that's of use, let me know and I'll make a list of them.

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Author: ScholarLadySims - Rank: Babblative BBSer - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jun-23-05 05:11 PM GMT

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Just do a quick search - "Victorian" and look in is Sims Exchange. I hit on over 200. I also got 2 hairstyles for all ages which are the type worn in the late 1700s to about 1900...

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Author: Aprilise - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jul-04-05 01:54 PM GMT

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I love this challenge, unfortunately i haven't been able to play it in a week because of a vacation (we went to Myrtle Beach) and my computer getting a rather stubborn hijacker virus that the geek squad is (hopefully) fixing.
Last time I played it though
My starter parents Jordan and Amelia are close to being elders (5 or 6 days I think)
Their daughters are teens. Abby (the oldest) is 4 days till adult (I think)
Adeline is 7 days till adult (I think) and the twins Annie and Alice just turned teen.
Their sons J.J. and Josh (twins again) are children and are close to being teens.
When I do get my computer back (hopefully fixed and virus/spyware free) I will start looking for Abby (and possibly Adeline's) future husband.
I haven't made a college for this neighborhood yet, I'm thinking of waiting till the third generation are old enough to go before putting one in.
Just for fun I decided all the girls names will start with the same letter as their mothers name and all boys names will start with the same letter as their fathers name.

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Author: Aprilise - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Jul-14-05 01:05 AM GMT

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Wow a lot has happened in my challenge family since I got my comp back.
Jordan and Amelia turned into elders. Jordan had an affair with a new neighbor, Cindy Raine, on two seperate occasions and as a result Catherine and James Raine joined the neighborhood (Catherine is currently a child and James is currently a toddler, Cindy also married in between the two and gave birth to another son named Kevin Cox who is currently a child)
Abby's teen boyfriend Alon Livingston (the paper boy) grew up and went to college. While in college he met, and started relationships with two women despite the fact he was promised to Abby, Mackenzie Rusewicz and Cynthia Ng. He graduated with honors and a degree in biology and moved in to a house inviting first Cynthia then Mackenzie to move in. He lived with each for only a short while before Cynthia became pregnant followed a day later by Mackenzie's pregnancy. Both women moved out and into their own house before Avery Ng and Andrei Rusewicz were born. Mackenzie also adopted a toddler girl the same age as Avery named Audrey.
After Cynthia and Mackenzie moved out Alon invited a now adult Abby to move in, proposed engagement, then threw a large wedding party inviting all of Abby's family. (it was a roof raiser!). When they returned from the honeymoon their first child was concieved. Ajay (Alon Henry Livingston Junior) was born followed in quick progression as the days passed by Aimee and shortly after by Adam.
Tomorrow when I play I'll work on Amelia and Jordan and their remaining teens. Adeline should grow up and most likely the twins (Alice and Annie) will grow to adulthood as well. J.J. and Josh should grow up in the next rotation.
I am running the families in a 7 day rotation so everyone grows up more or less equally.

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Author: Justice3838 - Rank: Big-Mouthed Bedlamite - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Aug-08-05 06:57 AM GMT

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This is a brilliant challege!
I'm totally going to try it today!

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Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Aug-08-05 11:10 AM GMT

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I would; almost everyone who's tried it have said they enjoy it ... me included, although I don't reply to my message with it.

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Author: leerab1 - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Aug-13-05 10:32 PM GMT

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I love this challenge!! It really shows how much women's rights have improved to our benefit over the years. Most of the medical students (or at least in Quebec, I think) are women!
So I'm going to get started as soon as possible, and probably make an album for each generation. This shouldn't be as hard as making many Legacy albums, because in this challenge, you can move out! Yay! Anyway, two of my rarely given out benes goes to you, fluffydevil04, as this is probably the funnest challenge I've seen!

Leandra

Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Aug-14-05 05:40 AM GMT

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Wow; that's a lot of medical students.
Yes, women's rights really have progressed; this challange was created to show that, using a tool we all love - TS2!
Thanks for bene and I hope you have a lot of fun with this challenge; other people have replied and said they have.

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Author: leerab1 - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Aug-14-05 04:58 PM GMT

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I've got a question. Until generation four, you have to have your hair up. Are we allowed to give them short hair, though? Nothing outrageous, but just shorter ones?

Leandra

Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Aug-15-05 01:25 PM GMT (updated Aug-15-05 01:28 PM GMT)

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I thought I'd said it was allowed to be down, but not extravagant by generation three? I'll just go and check.
Ok, I checked and I didn't say that; it definitely is generation four. I'd like to say yes because I can see where your coming from - but that would involve me going through, getting pictures of all the hairstyles and saying which ones were and weren't allowed, so I'm going to have to say no. Sorry about that.

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Author: leerab1 - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Aug-16-05 11:43 PM GMT (updated Aug-17-05 01:10 AM GMT)

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Alright! That's okay. Sorry it took a day to reply to this post. Are you subscribed to this thread?
Anyway, I'm on generation two, who is a teen. When she grew up to a teen, she was wearing a pair of jeans!! Of course, I immedietly made her change outfits. So, if they grow up wearing something that isn't allowed yet, I don't lose points, do I?
Also, I'm writing an album along with playing my family. I'll upload it soon enough (probably when gen.2 becomes an adult.)
PS: Sorry if I keep asking questions!! I really appreciate your answering them!
EDIT: A question to all players of this challenge: Has anyone made an album? I'm really curious about who has, and I'd love to read them!

Leandra

Author: fluffydevil04 - Rank: Voluble VIP - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Aug-18-05 12:18 PM GMT

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If they are wearing default clothes that you didn't pick, then no points lost ... however, you do have to change them within a day of the birthday or it counts as wearing something that's not allowed.
It's ok about asking questions; that's what I'm here for.

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Author: leerab1 - Rank: Loquacious Lurker - View MySimPage Profile

Date: Aug-18-05 02:16 PM GMT

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